Ward two constituent wishes to hear Mr. Pickel's views reference Crestwood.
This blog has given people in Crestwood one avenue to express their thoughts.
It is a tool for each of us to use and get answers to questions or problems.
It's for everyone. If you disagree - say so by writing your own message.
With that being said - I would like to start by saying:
.......As a Ward 2 constituent, I would like to hear what Mr. Pickel has to
say regarding some questions I have on important issues. And since he is a
candidate in my ward, I think it is important for him to allow me the courtesy of
a reply. Or perhaps, he only wants to answer to those who agree with him.
Mr. Pickel, by this blog, I would like your views on several things regarding
your stand as being an alderman representing myself and others in our ward.
I am really concerned about how you perceive respect and honesty and how you
will act on the podium with respect and professionalism. Will it be more
antics as we have previously had by others or will you act professional. I have my
reasons for asking this - as you will see below.
1. Will you work with this mayor or play politics? There is a difference.
I would like to know your answer since working together with a new mayor for
the good of the people is not what I have seen and heard from you.
I was present at the debate between Tom Fagan and Roy Robinson. I was the one
who saw you making fun of Mayor Robinson's answers to the point that I could
barely hear his replies to questions - as I was sitting right behind you.
Then when the "silver-tongue" lawyer who debates and speaks for a living, said
anything - you were totally in awe. That's playing politics, Mr. Pickel. Why
did you posture yourself that way. Why would you not give Mayor Robinson equal
time? Was it because Mayor Robinson isn't as eloquent as Mr. Fagan? Or was
it because he hasn't asked the citizens of Crestwood to go into debt for some
multi-million dollar capital expenditure like a new policy facility that we
can't afford.
2. What are your views on a tax increase. You should already know by now -
if you allow yourself to admit it - that the citizens of Crestwood are in this
mess because people who were on the board let it happen. Nobody in Crestwood
ever wanted a new police station. And they had to do the alderman's jobs by
getting a petition going which proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the
citizens of Crestwood knew more than the people who represented them. The people
were misled and Kept In The Dark.
So.....Mr. Pickel.....We are in bad shape now. And So......Are you for a tax
increase and why? Or.....Are you not for a tax increase....And why? People
are asking your opponent! What is your take on this! Is it some deep
"political" secret? Good aldermen don't keep secrets from their constituents Had
there been meetings with citizens instead of meetings amongst themselves and
Don Greer, the citizens of this community would have told their aldermen No Way
do we want a new "anything" - and there would have never been any COPS bonds
in the first place.
So Mr. Pickel are you a man of your conviction's? Will you please take the time to
answer the aforementioned questions. What is your take?
Sandy Grave
No.76
It is a tool for each of us to use and get answers to questions or problems.
It's for everyone. If you disagree - say so by writing your own message.
With that being said - I would like to start by saying:
.......As a Ward 2 constituent, I would like to hear what Mr. Pickel has to
say regarding some questions I have on important issues. And since he is a
candidate in my ward, I think it is important for him to allow me the courtesy of
a reply. Or perhaps, he only wants to answer to those who agree with him.
Mr. Pickel, by this blog, I would like your views on several things regarding
your stand as being an alderman representing myself and others in our ward.
I am really concerned about how you perceive respect and honesty and how you
will act on the podium with respect and professionalism. Will it be more
antics as we have previously had by others or will you act professional. I have my
reasons for asking this - as you will see below.
1. Will you work with this mayor or play politics? There is a difference.
I would like to know your answer since working together with a new mayor for
the good of the people is not what I have seen and heard from you.
I was present at the debate between Tom Fagan and Roy Robinson. I was the one
who saw you making fun of Mayor Robinson's answers to the point that I could
barely hear his replies to questions - as I was sitting right behind you.
Then when the "silver-tongue" lawyer who debates and speaks for a living, said
anything - you were totally in awe. That's playing politics, Mr. Pickel. Why
did you posture yourself that way. Why would you not give Mayor Robinson equal
time? Was it because Mayor Robinson isn't as eloquent as Mr. Fagan? Or was
it because he hasn't asked the citizens of Crestwood to go into debt for some
multi-million dollar capital expenditure like a new policy facility that we
can't afford.
2. What are your views on a tax increase. You should already know by now -
if you allow yourself to admit it - that the citizens of Crestwood are in this
mess because people who were on the board let it happen. Nobody in Crestwood
ever wanted a new police station. And they had to do the alderman's jobs by
getting a petition going which proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the
citizens of Crestwood knew more than the people who represented them. The people
were misled and Kept In The Dark.
So.....Mr. Pickel.....We are in bad shape now. And So......Are you for a tax
increase and why? Or.....Are you not for a tax increase....And why? People
are asking your opponent! What is your take on this! Is it some deep
"political" secret? Good aldermen don't keep secrets from their constituents Had
there been meetings with citizens instead of meetings amongst themselves and
Don Greer, the citizens of this community would have told their aldermen No Way
do we want a new "anything" - and there would have never been any COPS bonds
in the first place.
So Mr. Pickel are you a man of your conviction's? Will you please take the time to
answer the aforementioned questions. What is your take?
Sandy Grave
No.76
posted by Crestwood Independent at 11:45
31 Comments:
Why do you assume that ALL Crestwood residents even know about this site? Maybe Mr. Pickels doesn't even visit this site? I think that he would rather speak in person than on an blog site.
When reading the posts, most are anonymous .... maybe the same 3 or 4 people - who really knows how many different individuals post?
Why don't you call him in person if you are really interested in his views. (which I don't think you are)
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
"Gentle bloger" Your post was removed by me, not because we are not interested in what you have to say, quite the contrary. It was removed because it was an un-called for, as well as un-prevoked attack on a citizen of Crestwood, and frankly we do not need or want that type of thing on this blog!
The person you chose to denegrate asked a question of a candidate,a fair thing to do, so why not let the candidate answer his own questions?
A few posts ago we had a question of me, in that someone stated that "I was waiting for someone else to tell me how to respond", but after your remarks, I think it was asked of the wrong person.
We all look forward to your feelings for your chosen candidate, and I can assure you that they will be posted, but please, do not decend into a smear campaign, as neither side will benefit, and Crestwood is tired of it!
"My name is Tom Ford, and I want to be your Alderman fron Ward Two"
Tom Ford
Ward Two
Although I agree with your decision to remove the nasty post, I regret that we have lost the ability to see on what level some people operate. They do not "descend" into a smear campaign, but "reside" there.
I guess it is okay to submit blogs regarding city personnel that seems to "taint" their character and ability (that is if you agree with it) but not against others if you don't. AMAZING!
I'm sure there's a reason you allowed the following to be posted and remain posted until this date -because it is such a lovely, judicious, helpful remark: "2) Isn't the CA the Finance Director's Boss? Doesn't he provide for her performance review? Has she received a salary increase compliments of the CA? If so, this sounds like taxpayer financed prostitution!"
Looks to me like if elected you will not allow comments from anyone that disagrees with you. Don't you think residents have a right to know whether the accusations made by Ms. Grave have an ulterior motive? If she was paid off, as I heard at the barber shop, then that certainly puts a new light on her accusations. It's not like you've never allowed posting of gossip on this site before today is it?
Well, there you go again! As you may or may not know, when you step into the political arena, you become fair game, and that includes a C/A, F/O, Mayor, or for that matter, Mr. Ford, and Mr. Pickel. (not Pickels).
In my humble opinion, when you step outside that arena, or have never been in it in the first place, you do not deserve the slings, and arrows, such as the writer was subjected to, woulden't you agree?
If you were to post using your NAME, (AND GAVE ME A PHONE NUMBER) I would call you to verify your remarks. Then, and only then would I post them!
Now maby you understand the difference between the post's. On one hand we have a person who signed their name (and thus subjected themself to everyone's scruitany), and on the other hand we have "anonymous", an entity minus the courage to back up their accusations by posting the writers name! I ask you, who should we trust, "anonymous, or the person who back's up their remarks with their name?
I loved the remark about having heard this at the "barber shop". You know when I was an investigator, why that's the first place we would go! As you know, Everything said there is 'gospel".
"My name is Tom Ford, and I want to be your Alderman from Ward Two"
Tom Ford
Ward Two
FACT: The former CA ADMITTED to having a more than professional relationship – called it a “Social” – with the then Finance Director while he was under oath in a deposition regarding the lawsuit against Mr. Leichliter. Upon further questioning it was determined that it was far more than “Social”.
FACT: Prior the deposition the “City” spent your tax dollars to try and get the Court to prohibit inquires into this relationship. The Judge thought it was relevant and allowed the questions. - READ THE COURT FILE.
These are factual statements which raise numerous questions about the professional, ethical and financial conduct of these two, now ex-employees. Given the fact that the City has spent VAST amounts of scarce tax dollars suing one set of former employees for alleged misconduct, why shouldn’t the conduct of these two former employees be questioned as well when the FACTS are present?
As for as the comments about Ms. Grave…. What FACTS back up this slander\statement? From what I know, the FACTS regarding this situation appear to back Ms. Grave’s version of events that night.
"Anonymous", I think you are correct when you say that all here, on the blog should " call him in person, if you are really interested in his views".
May we please have all the phone numbers for Mr. Pickel, as well as his E-mail address? (I sent him an E-mail, but it was never responded to).
If you will look at former post's, you will find all of mine, so why the reluctance by your candidate?
"My name is Tom Ford, and I want to be your Alderman from Ward Two"
Tom Ford
Ward two
Well, well, well, the red velvet curtain once again goes up and the lights are dimmed. The Crestwood Players have practiced their lines and the familiar cast is ready to perform in "The Usual Suspects."
Looks like the note to Mr. P was poorly received, struck a nerve and the response a given. So ugly it had to be deleted. I say this because his audience spectacle at the Mayoral Debate did not go unnoticed. It was loud, not pretty and witnessed by many.Not just the lady who signed her note. Me thinks Mr. P. learneth his lines from his good buddy, Kelleher, whose public displays are all on record and tiring. Realizing he is now known by the company he keeps, Mr. P. is most likely realizing there are other associations to which he would better benefit. If he is innocent, this stands even more to reason.
Perhaps it was another of the players who chose to debase the lady anonomously. (The lady who signed her name to her note). Their cast is all capable of seeking revenge. They have revenged this town into possible receivership. Hostile, surley, when the good parts go to the deserving, they seek to pick at the scabs for amusement.
Maybe it was the Alderman who has termed out and thinks it cute to vote no on everything, drag out Robert's Rules at every opportunity, and encourage divisiveness. The Alderman who has had so many opportunities to right the city, but whose legacy will be as a major fly in the ointment. Maybe it is an ex-mayor who staggered away in shame to spend time with his family and endure a lawsuit; or maybe an ex-mayor's Mother who rose to ask the new Mayor for a plan; maybe the grown woman in short short shorts who was the next appointee to pursue this line of questionning knowing full well the plan was to stabilize the mismanagement of the past administration. Perhaps it was the Man in Black who has grave concerns about our city, but is surprisingly aligned with his intellectulal inferiors. Or maybe it is the "wifie" who likes to ramble at the podium about gosh knows what and chastise firemen. Or maybe the ex-city employee whose career in our city finally came to an abrupt halt, who in full knowledge of the cities bottom line dedicted himself to dragging the town to the financial basement while cheerleading a $14 Million Dollar city hall and trading a city car in for his own private BMW and $830/mo car allowance, and whose "social" contact with another city employee was a well known fact. Maybe it is a past or present alderman or city attorney practiced in defaming, unhappy with the upturn in the city in which they had no role.
There are others of these "usual suspects," as you can well imagine seeing the state of our city, but since the note was not signed, we will toss all their names into the hat for about 2 seconds and realize they are all equally tainted because one of theirs chose to hit and run, unfaaairly leaving the rest of their ilk in the dark of doubt.
And there you go - seems we have elicited the true behaviors of Mr. Ford and his supporters by having the audacity to post a question about their motives. If Crestwood wants McCarthyite government, obsessed with other peoples' sex lives and thought police that will label any dissension as "slander," then vote for this former "investigator" Tom ford. My thanks to all of you, especially that last poster, for revealing so much ofyour characters. It's clear Mr. Ford would never represent anyone that dared to disagree with him-instead they would be gleefully ridiculed. I'm sure the employees at city hall would be looking forward to working with an alderman that feels they are "fair game" - that should improve morale immensely. Most interesting of all is his lack of concern about payoffs to friends ofhis. Even a court of law allows an accuser to be asked whether they received any financial gain from their accusations. Just to prove my point about his intolerance, here are some OTHER anonymous posts he has allowed and thereby endorses: So, does this mean the town Romeo & Bimbo get a pass? And, if what the blogger intimates is essentially fact regarding the year end evaluations of
employees and raises, and the association ICMA rules have been broken, why is this city employee and his tax paid lady-pal still insulting our dignity at $94,000/year and a BMW?
7:01 PM, January 18, 2006 Anonymous
Best pay attention, pal, and get that budget balanced and cut off the strings going up your back. Perhaps you should remember what we are not likely to forget, your demeanor, your politics and your reasoning are not up
to snuff. A good idea now is to either resign to spend more time with your family or align yourself with the reality that the crowd you hang with does not carry the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval. Listen up to the "good"
advice afforded you by those who have it and drop out of the I Love Friction Club. It's leader is losing his fizz along with his hair and getting uncomfortably vague. Get out while the getting is good! The City You Save
May Be Your Own! Maybe even the neck!
1:10 PM, December 16, 2005
Residents - are you really ready to live in Oceania and install these malcontents as the Thought Police?
All these comments prove one thing..this is still a place and time where the divisiveness is rampant. It's like watching a tennis match from the center line, back and forth, back and forth, aim one at the others' head! Game, set and match on election day! The last serve will be made by the voters!
Let's see who goes all John McEnroe then (again!).
To "anonymous", Thought police? Gee I haden't heard that since Al Frankin's tadio show went off Air America, or was it Air America that shut down?
You have once again skirted the point, and that is, if your so adiment about your beliefs, print your name!
One thing we do know is that you are no doubt a supporter of my worthy opponent, and as such a supporter of Mssrs. Trueblood, and kelleher, as when I see my opponent, they are right along side.
I am glad you pointed out though, my "behavior". I am very happy to know that it's different from what I have seen on that dias over the last two years.
Intolerance toward others with different ideas? Well your on here arn't you? If I was, as you say "intolerant" wouldent you be the first to go?
City employees?, well I think the City employees know me, and what I stand for, we shall let them speak for themselves (for a change).
I am out here for all to see, and, as they say, what you see and hear is what you will get. Your candidate is no where to be found as of yet, so when he does start his campaign, the voters will see two entirely different people, with two entirely different ideas!
After it's all said and done, it will be up to them to decide, business at the same old stand? Or me! Their choice.
As always, I appreciate your comments and concerns, and please vote on April 4th. for the person of your choice.
"My name is Tom Ford, and I want to be your Alderman from Ward Two"
Tom Ford
Ward Two
I am really getting pretty tired with your requests for people to sign their name. When an "anonymous" comment is posted that is to your liking and opinion, you don't ask them to sign their name?
When a comment is made NOT to your liking or question you, you infer that the comment made by "anonymous" is not valid or lacks substance.
Come on this is why you have this site isn't it - to get EVERYONE'S views? or just your views?
Regarding having Mr. Pickel visit this site and share his views with the small group who visit - have you tried to call him or set up a public "discussion" so a larger number of citizens could attend, instead of just those who visit this site? It seems that the amount of time to submit several comments regarding Mr. Pickel's lack of response could have been put to better use by picking up the telephone and calling him to set up a public meeting. Think about it. Sometimes the internet does not reach the amount of people you may think it does.
Mr. Pickel seems to have a lack of response except what he's spoon fed. This site is the perfect opportunity for him to share his views. I'm sure you've told him about it!
Spoon fed - you must be talking about Mr. Ford. If he does not realize that the problems with Crestwood started with the old CA that Crestwood has a law suit against - then smomething smells
smomething else smells. Why is it that you pretend to be anti-Mr. Ford when you won't just come right out and tell us WHO it is you're speaking for? Quit pretending.
Methinks you are planting seeds that didn't germinate for 2 years!That ship sailed, Pal.
Everyone knows when these problems started! When YOUR crowd was in charge! Did you try to fix it? Or just sit there, waiting for someone else to give you the answers? The wrong person was giving you the answers, the wrong answers, and it failed. Because everyone saw through the subterfuge. The same tactic you're trying to employ now.
Did things get better in the years long period when the former CA was outed? Or did you let your allegiances keep you blind to reality?
When a majority of the citizens told you to stop your antics, you whined. When they succeeded, you shoot from behind.
At least Mr. Ford is letting his viewpoints be known, scrutiny and all. You hide!
It's too late to go back in time! Fix it!
It would be so nice if we could all just put the past behind us and move FORWARD! What is done is done. Lets get this very small tax voted in and get OUR city back! Lets all try and work together......whomever ends up in office! Our Mayor is working his butt off to get this city back on the right track. The Aldermen finally seem to be working with him. Lets hope the new batch does as well. I was told "Rome wasn't built in a day." Well Crestwood won't be "re-built" in a day either! I will give Mr. Ford credit! He speaks his mind and doesn't hold anything back. He cares about our city. I can honestly say that I DON'T have any personal ties to him whatsoever! I am very anxious to hear Mr. Pickel's views although I may have already been reading some on this very blog site. Who really knows though? I hope some of these negative postings will stop. They serve no purpose at all. GET OVER IT PEOPLE!
Good for you! Only a few people here have demonstrated their unselfishness in working towards the future and forgiving the mistakes of the past! By working together, we will get over it! Let's fix this together!
Right now, there are all kinds of people working unselfishly to help Crestwood!
Helping Crestwood is Helping You!
Get on board! Be constructive. And in the years to come you can look back and say "You know what? I did something good here! Look what we did!" You'll see a community that is desired and respected. You'll see people not anxious, but confident!
By mending Crestwood, we'll mend those that need it the most! And that is loving thy neighbor as you love thyself!
Very well! Now Everybody go outside and enjoy this beautiful day. Look around and thank God we live in a place that is safe and lovely. Barbecue! Go out to dinner (in Crestwood!). Enjoy your lives, secure in the knowledge that we are moving in the right direction. Things are looking up in Crestwood, and so is the weather! Maybe if we put all this bickering aside we can use the slogan "Crestwood: Look on the Sunny side of LIFE!"
I agree!
Ladies and Gentlemen, What a day indeed! As they say, The Lord works in mysterious ways!
Today we were treated to a taste of Spring, and as I drove through the country side in Illinois, I was reminded of renewal. The changing of the seasons, and the changing of the guard right here in Crestwood!
I am sure all of the candidates have the best interest of this fine City at heart, we just have different ideas on how to get there!
I furvently hope that this campaign season we can stick to the issues before us, and forget the petty bickering, as this will solve nothing, and get us further in the hole.
That said, I urge all of you to listen to both sides, make your decision, and vote on April 4th!
"My name is Tom Ford, and I want to be your Alderman from Ward Two"
Tom Ford
Ward two
Well said sir!
I am confused--if Ms. Grave had questions for Mr. Pickel, why doesnt she walk around the corner--literally--and ask her neighbor, Mr. Pickel, the questions she has to his face? Seems a little odd to me to request them via this blog. Further, if she is so concerned about his manners and propriety, why is the tone of her request somewhat acidic?
I completely understand why Ms. Grave asked these questions in this public forum. Some of us can't go to Mr. Pickel's house or even know his schedule. I do not spend a lot of time "socializing" either. But I would like to make an informed decision.
Further, I truly believe that his supporters have informed him about this website. He may be reading it or even submitting remarks.
Despite numerous attempts to bring Mr. Pickels into this public forum, he is ignoring every request. That leads me to believe that he is unconcerned about informing ME! Is it going to be the same old thing here? Where I am led to believe that this man is qualified for my vote when he won't make an attempt to inform me? It is not my responsibility to knock on his door!
Those of us that rely on telephones and computers and the mail to complete most of our daily business are requesting that he honor our needs, as an alderman should. He certainly knows how to use a computer!
If you are so concerned about this issue, please implore him to reach out to his constituents. If not, his message is clear. He is distancing himself from us, plain and simple.
I like to stay informed about what's going on. And besides the weekly newspapers that I have been sorely disappointed in, I use this site and the city's website to stay informed. I am very happy to be able to read the opinions of others. It gets me thinking in more than just a one dimensional viewpoint. Hence the name, Crestwood Independent, which I find very fitting.
Regarding why Ms. Grave suggests that Mr Pickels has poor manners, I have heard and seen enough of that bad behavior from our leaders. If this is not true of him, I would like him to let that be known.
The only thing I know about Mr. Pickels is that he once wrote that he believed Jim Kelleher was a good listener. And I know from personal experience that Mr Kelleher is one of the worst listeners I've ever encountered. Is that all I have to base my vote on? Then this decision will be easy for me!
He would do me the honor of spending just a small amount of time fulfilling requests for his viewpoints. Otherwise, I for one will know that he is just doing business as usual. Ignoring his constituents.
I wish to answer the 25th comment on the blog.
Anonymous - maybe I will - as you stated - just walk around the block and
ask Mr. Pickel my questions. I was always of the opinion, however, that when a
candidate for office wants your vote, that person somehow gives out
information like telephone numbers, e-mail addresses, etc. - to the people so the
citizen knows the candidate is amiable and welcomes any questions. I have seen
nothing so far from Mr. Pickel.
I have only seen Mr. Pickel one time and that was at the mayoral debate
where he was sitting in front of me laughing at Roy Robinson. Bad first
impression. If Mr. Pickel wants to speak to me, he could have just as easily come
across the street and knocked on my door too.
He doesn't have to put anything on the blog to answer my questions, regarding
the tax increase, or how he will posture himself on the dais if he is
elected. He can choose whatever means of communication he wants. I just feel that
if someone doesn't put his number out there for people to phone, that I, as a
citizen, shouldn't have to look it up, ask a neighbor for it or put myself
out. He is the one running for alderman. I am just one of many using the blog as
a means of communicating what I feel about things in my city.
Sandy Grave
I suggest that Ms. Grave take the chip off her shoulder before she walks around the corner to ask her neighbor--Mr. Pickels--the question she needs. Removing the chip would make the short walk a bit easier, and more pleasant.
Cut Ms. Grave some slack buddy. She was a dedicated City Employee for 20+ years. What did she get for these many years of loyal service? 1) Treated like crap by the now former "Building a Better Way Together Administration"- like many former Crestwood Employees who left during the last three years. 2) Vilified on this site by somebody who thinks she doesn’t have the right to speak her mind. By the way, Mr. Boggerman had nothing to do with “paying” Ms. Grave off. The money she got came from the City’s insurance company. Get your facts strait before you slander the victim!
In about a month the truth will come out about what happened to Ms. Grave when she and a few other people are deposed for the upcoming lawsuit against the former CA. Unfortunately, a lot of the dirty laundry from the past 3 years will be aired, but you reap what you sew. Hopefully, Mayor Robinson with the backing of the new Board will save us some tax dollars and expose all of this crap before the trial starts and we give another $250,000 for "legal services".
Re: Ms Grave being deposed.
Since she has been gone close to three years, how can she offer any information about the past three years except that which would be hear say? Before her resigning yes, but after she resigned what information would she know about on a first hand basis? Or better still could she know about on a first hand basis?
Would she be able to provide information on how Kent Lichliter mislead the Aldermen of that day to believe there was not a money problem? Could she shed light on how the late Mayor Kellorn did nothing to reduce spending after the county started to take our sales tax $? Will she be able to explain why, once the County started taking our sales tax $, Mayor Kellorn resigned in mid term, not finishing out her term in office?
Dear 30th blogger - I was told by a prior blogger that I was getting
"acididy". Well it seems I am not the only one. Sounds like you have a bigger
problem in that regard.
I have been gone from Crestwood employment for three years but I still see
and hear and read things. If you are allowed to give your opinion, why can't I
give mine. And another thing - if you got a beef about Pat Killoren or any
other mayor or have an issue that seems to get up in your face, I am not the
one who made the laws and therefore for you or anyone else to get on my "case"
about what has happened in Crestwood - you are preaching to the choir kiddo!
I was a little dot on the wall that happened to be working there at a very
serious time and the next thing I know - I am being pushed around like I was
dirt.
The real person who has much more clout than I was protected by the glorious
board of aldermen and Mr. Don Greer. So don't open your unknowledgable mouth
until you know what you are talking about. All I have been seeing for a
couple of years are board members who seem to enjoy calling each other names and
performing a show on the dais while they are suppose to represent you and I.
All I see are some people who are not willing to work together. Instead of
protecting us, some are playing politics and you should be as angry about that as
I am. And since you are speaking of the issues that I should know about,
what about your aldermen? Have you spoke to them about your issues - after all
they are the ones who took an oath - not me?
I think enough has been said about me - I am doing nothing wrong but trying
to give my opinion - just as you are giving yours. I am not the one who should
get a tongue lashing. I can show you and anyone else the documents I have in
my home that will illustrate the living hell I have been through because of
my years with city hall and it ain't pretty. So get off your high horse
whoever you are. Blame the people who made the laws and all the previous people who
were suppose to be serving you and I and didn't do their jobs.
Sandy Grav`e
Ms. Grave,
Every comment you make is negative. I have not read one comment you have made, or questions asked (oh I guess you know everything about Crestwood) to be positive or just simply asking questions.
Maybe that is why you don't work for the city any longer.
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