Wednesday, April 26, 2006

Robinson, Myers, and Dailey will be attending the retailers meeting!

Someone a while back on this blog was wondering what it cost for the Mayor and Mr. Myers to fly to Vegas for the retail convention. They also asked why Ms. Ellen Dailey would not be going instead as she is the economic development person.

I direct you attention to the April 27, 2006 edition of the Suncrest Call which has a front page article on the trip! It seems that the reader's question was a bit early (how did you know,) as they don't leave until late May, and Ms. Dailey will be with them!

This looks like a great chance to bring some new blood into Crestwood, and I for one am happy to see them all go! Who better to be there than two decision making representatives of Crestwood, and one economic development specialist to advise them on the best stores to attract.

By the way, all the financial information you wanted as to the cost of this trip is in the article. I think the "sales to cost ratio" is well worth the funds spent on this one.


Tom Ford

N0.133

72 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard a rumor that Westfield sold Crestwood Plaza. Does anyone know about this? Apparently it happened a couple of weeks ago and the news is just now leaking out. I'd like to hear more information if anyone has any......

8:55 PM, April 26, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do have one question about the retailers meeting. I understand why the economic development person and city administrator are going, but why are we paying for the mayor to go? It is my understanding that we pay the city administrator to 'run' the city, and that the mayor is not supposed to be involved in day to day operations of the city. If he is, why do we need both positions?

8:57 PM, April 26, 2006  
Blogger Crestwood Independent said...

It has been rumored that the center was for sale, but I have not heard that it sold as of yet.

We shall keep our ear to the ground for more info.

Tom Ford

8:59 PM, April 26, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Meyers has stated "I have attended this conference before, and it was successful using this conference as a vehicle to make some deals,"

I'm not sure how these "deals" work when the city does not own the mall. Anybody know how these "deals" work? Doesn't the BOA have to approve the permits for these stores before a "deal" is made?

Wouldn't it have been more beneficial to just send 1 or 2 representatives (Mr. Meyers and Ms. Daley) for 2 days? This is their area of expertise.

10:36 PM, April 26, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree..not sure why the Mayor has to go, unless it is to make a better presentation?

10:37 PM, April 26, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Westfield is selling Northwest Plaza. Maybe that is where all of the "talk" is coming from.

It may be good. Maybe a new owner would take a different look at Crestwood Mall and change it to be more attractive both in appearance and types of stores/services it would provide. Make it more unique than other types of malls.

10:39 PM, April 26, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't believe that the mayor and the CA are decision makers. They are advisers to the BOA. They are to present ideas and alterntive solutions for the BOA to decide what is best for Crestwood. They are the representatives of the citizens making the decisions.

I agree, the mayor has no experience in this area. Couldn't they have saved Crestwood some money. Don't they know Crestwood is behind in the anticipated revenues for the 1st quarter? (our biggest income months) I thought we weren't going to spend any money that was not necessary.

10:47 PM, April 26, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, the mayor is now on the CID committee. Maybe that is how he justifies his expense for the trip.

10:50 PM, April 26, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boss Hog is more likely to generate garage sales, moving sales and estate sales than attract retailers. He should go on the luxurious trip to Las Vegas on his own dime rather than the taxpayers'. Crestwood will get a negative bang for the buck with his meddling in things he knows nothing about. His business expertise and community salesmanship abilities are nil. What retailers has the Mayor personally convinced on staying in or moving to Crestwood? Westfield? They do not even want to talk to him.

8:55 AM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The same company that is buying Northwest Plaza is also buying Crestwood.... Somera Capital Management. They are closing on both properties on May 13.

www.someracapital.com

9:07 AM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't we pay Ms. Daly and Mr. Meyers to conduct business for the City? Why is the mayor becoming involved? I've heard him speak, and I don't think he should be representing the city professionally, especially when we are talking about trying to rejuvinate our business community. I don't want to see my tax dollars spent on an unnecessary extra for a 'business' trip. Let those that speak well do our speaking.

12:10 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

By Martin Van Der Werf
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
04/27/2006

Martin Van Der Werf
[More columns]
[Martin's Biography]

The story of the failed shopping center in Sunset Hills doesn't want to end. Add this postscript:

Westfield Group, which largely bankrolled the opposition in the name of protecting nearby Crestwood Plaza, may have reached a deal to sell Crestwood.

I reported on Tuesday that shopowners at Northwest Plaza had been asked to sign documents stating that the center was about to be sold to Somera Capital Management, a California-based real estate private equity fund. It turns out the same documents were going out to shopowners at Crestwood Plaza. The documents said the deal is to close on May 12.

Wednesday, officials at Somera and Westfield said the documents, known as estoppel agreements, were sent out erroneously. But they did not say the deal was off.

1:52 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

By Martin Van Der Werf
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
04/27/2006

Martin Van Der Werf
[More columns]
[Martin's Biography]

The story of the failed shopping center in Sunset Hills doesn't want to end. Add this postscript:

Westfield Group, which largely bankrolled the opposition in the name of protecting nearby Crestwood Plaza, may have reached a deal to sell Crestwood.

I reported on Tuesday that shopowners at Northwest Plaza had been asked to sign documents stating that the center was about to be sold to Somera Capital Management, a California-based real estate private equity fund. It turns out the same documents were going out to shopowners at Crestwood Plaza. The documents said the deal is to close on May 12.

Wednesday, officials at Somera and Westfield said the documents, known as estoppel agreements, were sent out erroneously. But they did not say the deal was off.

1:53 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe Roy will get a job at one of the BlackJack tables while visiting Las Vegas and not return. Without a Board President to be our acting mayor, that could be the best thing that happen to Crestwood since the Drive Inn was torn down.

2:15 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh Heaven's No! Let's not send the Mayor to Vegas. Shame on him for spending more City money. Truth is, it isn't going to matter if he goes to Vegas or not, people will always find a way to "stick it to the man". That's politics in this town and it will never change.

If we could look at it in a positive sense, it might be a way of showing retailers that the mayor of Crestwood took the extra step by participating in this retailers meeting. However, realizing that his Vegas trip has already been exploited on this blog by previous bloggers weeks ago in a negative sense, someone has already jumped on the bandwagon early to make it sound like a bad thing. The only bad thing about it is the people who will make a political issue out of it and never liked the mayor in the first place.

Life is not a dress rehearsal. We have a serious retail problem in Crestwood. If this mayor doesn't speak well enough or is an embarrassment to you, maybe we should have the two previous mayors who were hot-shot lawyers go in his place. They did so much for Crestwood. If the mayor is concerned enough to want to go the extra mile to help generate new business, what can possibly be wrong with that? Oh yes, here we go again with that political "thingy".

We can always bring back the master of manipulation, Don Greer and give him 100K a year to help us out. Send him! In his case, we could even save more money and make him City Administrator and MAYOR. After all, he has always helped our money situation while the two previous mayors let him do it! He is so smart, the city wouldn't have to send anyone else. Just imagine how many Vegas "cutie pies" he could bring back to Crestwood and give them jobs. Then he could convince the board "his cuties" too should be paid $72,000 a year like his finance officer. You are one of those who will never, ever work with this mayor because you are too bitter that your buddy isn't sitting in that seat. Face it, the people voted and have made their choice, now get over it and yourself.

2:50 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It takes a stupid man to make a stupid remark at 2:15 PM about the mayor. There is only one man I know that has time enough to let his mouth overload his posterior at that time of the day. Someone who doesn't have a real job. He lets his mouth fly open all the time on the dais. And boy does he hate this mayor. He should try working for a living that's if anybody would hire him.

3:10 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 2:50, you are obviously a supporter of the mayor, that's fine, many people are not, and for good reason. That doesn't make them supporters of the previous group either. We replaced bad with worse, and this isn't a two-camp group that everyone belongs to one side or the other. Some of us are still waiting for some intelligent, non-ego-driven people to come along. We can't get to that point until we let go of the past, muddle through the present, with a brighter look toward the future. Until then, let's pinch our pennies. I don't see why we are paying for either the mayor or the city administrator to go to 'vegas'. Isn't Ms. Daily the person that should be focusing on this trip? How about Mr. Myers stay home and worry about our finances?

4:15 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MY MAYOR, RIGHT OR WRONG!!

BETTER DEAD THAN RED!!!

WE HAVE MET THE ENEMY AND HE IS US!

AT LEAST THIS MAYOR IS BETTER THAN GREER, YOU WONDERED HOW LONG IT WOULD BE BEFORE THAT CLAIM WAS MADE? NOW YOU KNOW.
Its not about Greer or past mayors, its about the willingness of some of the mayor's supporters to accept less than what is really needed to fix the problems of the mall. What is wrong with expecting better from the current mayor, that is not a defense of past mayors or GREER, it is an expectation of improvement. One work day in Vegas for 3 @ $3000 when if Dailey went it would be approx 2/3's less and she could work FOUR days! Now what does GREER or former mayors have to do with that math?

4:52 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Would someone please explain who is Las Vegas the Crestwood contingent is going to visit with, and what exactly is the intent of the trip. Without the explanation, I will consider the trip recreational. I don't care which fund is which in this town moneywise, after just voting for a tax increase right out of the gate comes a trip to Vegas. Hope the tickets are refundable if this note does not receive some justification or explanation. Ms Daily needs to stay home and busy herself with the details of filling stores and earning her salary. Not to mention the others going who have promised to conserve not travel. Just an explanation, please.

5:41 PM, April 27, 2006  
Blogger Crestwood Independent said...

While I do not have all the public domain experience that many have, it seems to me that having a Mayor along to meet the prospective business is the right thing to do.


Look at it this way, how much more sincere do we look to a retailer by having the "big three" available to them for a Q and A session?

In other words, would you rather be welcomed to a new bank by the newest person on the staff, or the manager, head teller, and V.P.?

The amount of funds expended for the Mayor to go on this trip is minimal,like salting the mine prior to thr sale.

Not everyone voted for Roy, and not everyone likes him, but he is our Mayor, and as such our front man, so what say we let him do his job!

Tom Ford

5:42 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is a fact that the "newest person on the staff" has been a part of Crestwood government longer than either the manager, head teller and V.P." or "the Mayor". She has more Crestwood economic knowledge and other expertise in this matter than either of the others.
She should go and they should not waste the taxpayers' money by tagging along.

6:37 PM, April 27, 2006  
Blogger Crestwood Independent said...

Well my friend on this one, we shall have to agree to disagree, but thats ok, it's what makes a blog interesting!

Tom Ford

6:43 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To bloggers at 4:15 PM and 4:52 PM -We have to remember the past so we don't make the same mistakes. Knowing the mistakes and how the previous board of aldermen and mayor relied heavily on what the past administration was telling them, and the past administration not telling them everything regarding our budgetary problems, if I were a mayor, I would also want to accompany the other two persons from the City to Vegas. I would be most anxious to hear and see for myself how other cities solve their retail problems and would want to network with new retailers.

In no way does this mean that I would have a problem with trusting two city employees to do the job. It would be my desire to learn as much as I could about a problem that we are going to be up against for a long time in Crestwood. I am from Missouri and I would want to hear things for myself and take in as much as I could to bring back to the Crestwood table. It's great to have two competent people but I would want to learn too; after all it is imperative that a mayor be hands on. It makes for better understanding. What's wrong with that?

If you want to split hairs about how much it will cost to send our mayor to Vegas with 2 employees, you should be even more upset about how we got into this mess in the first place. If you are angry about spending money to have the mayor go to Vegas to alleviate a serious problem and find out "hands on" how to turn things around, what in the "hey" did you think about all the spending that was going on before.

I am sorry but at least this money is being spent to IMPROVE. It certainly doesn't compare to PAYING $72,000 an inept finance officer when she couldn't add one plus one without Don Greer's help.

And Yes, I am a supporter of the mayor's. It's simple to see why. Tom Fagan was going to keep Don Greer, the "money monger" among other things in Crestwood to save money because he would wear two hats. When he said that, he lost my vote. You talk about going from bad to worse? Roy Robinson got rid of the very person who cost us the most money of anyone that has ever held a position in Crestwood. Tom Fagan wouldn't have done it. Still Don Greer is the reason Tom Fagan lost the election period!!!!! And that is why I am a Roy Robinson supporter. You can't give that much power to a person who is a power monger. We all should have learned that from history. 100% is the most you can give any job - Don Greer was given 2 positions by Tom Fagan so the most Greer could give to each was 50%. Do the math!
At the board of aldermen meetings, Tom Fagan allowed some board of aldermen members to carry on like a bunch of idiots, screaming and yelling on the dais. He never demanded professionalism, he never slammed that gavel down or told them they were out of order. Not very professional for a silver tongue lawyer. Maybe the mayor doesn't have the stage presence of a lawyer, but the world is not a stage. He got rid of Don Greer and nobody else had the courage to do it and that is go enough for me.

And whether anyone likes it or not, this is a divided board and good luck trying to change it. I would love to see compromise and unity, but that would take a miracle.

7:10 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good gosh all mighty people, can this mayor do no wrong in your minds? The arguments about the mayor going or not going to Las Vegas are not personal. You could use any mayor from the past history of Crestwood and the arguments about that mayor going/not going would have the same value. Why is every thing measured by Fagan/Greer. No wonder the board is split, there is no way anyone can disagree with Roy and no be called by you as a follower of fagan.
I thought the defenders of Clinton were strong headed but the defenders of this mayor could teach them a lot!

7:39 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People need to quit sending the message to the board of alderman that if they don't agree with the mayor, they are "Fagan" people and they are the enemy. Let's DO learn something from our past, and require our board members to question everything thrown at them...by the mayor, the city administrator, or anyone else. Playing follow the leader is how we got into this mess in the first place, and robinson isn't the savior for all past misdeeds, he's another politician.

8:44 PM, April 27, 2006  
Blogger Crestwood Independent said...

I agree with you 100%, now if we can just forget past boards, Mayors, and the like, we may be able to move ahead!

At the last meeting we saw another 4/4 tie! It seems that even though a new board had been sworn in, the politics at the same old stand are still in efect.

Do we have at least one alderman from any ward that will vote the will of the people? Or will they all form ties with whomever to the detriment of Crestwood?

Good Lord folks, even the Mafia will agree some of the time!

Tom Ford

9:10 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the members of the Mafia disagree, someone ends up wearing concrete shoes!!! They ain't that comfortable I bet!

9:19 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your right, maybe Nieder should break ranks with the Mayor and Miglue and vote for Duwe. The will of the people, right!

9:21 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this mayor doesn't do his job, he too will be history and rightly so. But until such time as there are critical mistakes and real reasons to get upset about what he does, it isn't a question of doesn't he do anything wrong or what does he do right. The question is should we and for what reason should we ridicule every little thing he does as some of our previous bloggers have done? If you were to read all of the comments just under this one message, you might understand where I am coming from with this.

Calling him names like "Boss Hogg" and "Working in Vegas at the Black Jack Tables so he doesn't come back to Crestwood". What else should a person think by reading those comments?

Bad comments and insinuations said about this mayor by members of the board of aldermen have gotten around to the public. The people who have made these comments always end up being the Fagan Five so draw your own conclusion. I am sure I am not the only one who has heard the comments and it always goes back to 5 people. I heard a disrespectful comment at the mayoral debate from Pat Duwe sitting right behind me. Now they want to make her President of the Board. Terrific but will she work with this mayor. No Way! It's time to stop the nonsense.

I say, like or dislike, it is your call but the people chose him so enough with the underhanded name calling. If you want to say something important do so or keep your petty comments confined to your petty friends and show some respect. If you can't do that, go live on an island with a moot around it where nobody can hear you.

9:51 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why it is because the vote of the BOA turned out to be a tie, that "the politics at the same old stand"? How about "Do we have at least one alderman from any ward that will vote the will of the people?"

These comments are just the type that we do not need on this site.

It seems you enjoy degrading people that do not agree with you. Have you asked any of the BOA if they had solicited suggestions for the president of the BOA. DOUBT IT! WERE YOU EVEN AT THE MEETING? Or have you just been told what to think from the "group".

10:13 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, I am a Clinton supporter. He had a little fling, but President Bush had a little war (that is still going on). At least he didn't hurt America. He only hurt his family.

My God, how many times do we have to say it "we must work together for the good of Crestwood...which includes working together as aldermen and working with and supporting our Mayor". He really is trying to do what is best for our City. Call him names, etc., but that is only showing your immaturity. Let's work together and get this town on the upswing. I think the sale of Crestwood Mall is a jolt in the right direction. Westfield was never cooperative or supportive of our mall. Trust me...I know.

I did go to the the meeting the other night, and I was very impressed with Alderman O'Keefe's message. We must be positive about Crestwood. We can not be negative in our words (or in the papers). It is our homes (our families). You wouldn't talk negative about your mother, father, sisters, or brothers...would you? This is our town....Let's make it work!!

We will be back!! Our town and mall are survivors.

11:16 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are not telling me anything new regarding getting this board to working together. And I will applaud any alderman who has the courage to do so. I will not applaud anyone on this blog, whoever they are, when they name call anyone; that includes the mayor or anybody. That's what I get angry with. If a board member says something that is out of line and it is mentioned on this blog, it is not the same as calling people names that demean. Board members or anyone that say things on this blog that they wouldn't allow their kids say, like name calling and speaking poorly about their constituents or members of the board, should be chastised and be called on it.

If any board member goes around bad mouthing other board members or the mayor, they should step back and realize that they too, are contributing to the negativism that is going on. They are suppose to be the leaders, let's make them act like leaders.

Others who want to name call, don't need to do it on this blog and that isn't the same as calling for accountability if our leaders step out of line.

8:45 AM, April 28, 2006  
Blogger Crestwood Independent said...

To the 10:13PM blogger did you read what I said? I don't think I slammed anyone, or made the kind of comments WE (and who is WE?)don't need on this board!

I couldent care less who is the president of the board, but if all were going to get is another lock step board (for whomever,) then what have we accomplished?

And furthermore, unlike some I have read here, I do not enjoy degrading people, but I also do not enjoy seeing our community in the Suncrest Call after a board meeting when the 4-4 votes are cast, and neither should you (unless you are participating in them!)

Tom Ford

4:51 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with 8:44pm in that everyone on the boa cannot have been in the former mayor's pocket. Paying attentin to how each member votes and listening to explanations are of utmost importance. Roy R. a politician? I don't see that. People solicited him to run for mayor. this is true! They were so totally fed up with how things were going and roy has a great background and lots of experience. I much prefer people with police educational background than lawyers for city office. The mayor before Mr. Fagan about did us all in but not a lot of people realize just what happened there. Sad!

11:38 AM, April 30, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said!

3:10 PM, April 30, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What ever happened to Robertson? Crestwood was so nice before came in and got us on the front page of the Call EVERY WEEK! Isn't he the one who started all the lawsuits?

4:09 PM, April 30, 2006  
Blogger Crestwood Independent said...

I believe mayor Robinson resigned his post in mid term.

I do not know the full story, so I shall allow someone who does fill in the blanks.

"Grandpa Tom Ford"

6:08 PM, April 30, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re: 6:08 pm. Mr. Ford, I'm quite sure you meant to say Robertson, not Robinson. Jim R. got a little drunk and really misbehaved at the Cristmas party. Mr. Greer was called to take him home but as I understand it passed the privilege onto another officer. A lot of people know the true story, but as you well know, when the culprit is a lawyer in this town, we slap their hands and they are off scott free. This really is a case that should be reopened. It's incredible in crestwood that the wrongdoers get paid off nicely and the innocent victums get punished eternally.

9:15 PM, April 30, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How is this for a wonderful suggestion? In order to become an alderman/woman, you must take a test to prove you have enough general knowledge. How is it that all the ward 2 aldermen seem to belong to the private swim club and St. Elizabeth's church. I know that one of our aldermen said recently that it only pays $350.00 per month. How's that for the reason one of our eight serves? the city? If you truly listen to our aldermen at meeting, you can quickly decide which ones are presenting facts and which ones are only there as a social function most creating diversity. Those who are duwing nothing should be asked to resign.

9:22 PM, April 30, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess you are talking about alderman Breeding resigning?

12:34 PM, May 01, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think the Christmas party is the issue regarding Robertson. I believe it has to do with employees showing up for work. (or NOT)

12:35 PM, May 01, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crestwood needs a new Mayor.

4:46 PM, May 01, 2006  
Blogger Crestwood Independent said...

Correct, I did mean Robertson, not Robinson (typo.)

I would disagree that we need a new Mayor, we just need to listen to the one we have, and back the ideas that make sense, not automatically dismiss them out of hand because their his.

The more divisive we become the less the chance Crestwood will survive, doubt me? Well look at some of the other towns that have been merged with the county!

Tom Ford

5:10 PM, May 01, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 12:35 today, you are sooooooooo wrong about the reson he resigned. Some day we will all be "in the know". Legal agreements have some mouths sealed. But you know how things have a way of "getting out".

6:11 PM, May 01, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It couldn't possibly be someone who allowed a certain finance person to be hired at an excedingly high rate of pay to be concerned about our mayor's planefare to Vegas (which you can almost fly free to there). Clifford, where were you when it came time to vote for her to be a city employee? It's nerve to call roy boss hogg when it's public record to who you voted to hire. Excuse me while i puke!

6:46 PM, May 01, 2006  
Blogger Crestwood Independent said...

Now, now kiddies, let's keep it above board please!

Tom Ford

7:05 PM, May 01, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some ideas for Crestwood - What do you think? (I can take criticism-I have my tissue box nearby):
1. Representatives from the City of Crestwood should meet with Somera Capital Management. If Somera is buying Crestwood Plaza, the city needs to get an idea as to what the company plans to do.
2. Reps from the city should also meet with Jim Butler. Initial planning should begin for that site. What is its best use? Maybe our planning consultants could work with our economic development committee. Time is not our friend. We need to work quickly as possible.
3. Work with the Economic Development Committee, the board, and Ms.Dailey(sp?) to initiate Tom Ford's idea to "Shop Crestwood First".
If the city can generate more revenue, it can get a better handle on some of its issues.
What are your thoughts?

9:19 PM, May 01, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the 9:19 p.m. post

Don't ask the people on this blog what they think, ask the board! Bring your suggestions to the next board meeting and present them during the public comment portion of the agenda. I'm sure your positive suggestions would be well-received.

10:24 PM, May 01, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you believe residen'ts suggestions are well-received at the boa meetings? Past experience with many residents that a few of the board act as if they think speakers are a pain. I've heard some discussions that sound like people don't feel anything they say makes one bit of difference. Hell, we cannot even get the aldermen to speak into their mikes so the whole audience can here what's going on. I think the only reason people write on the blog is that at least somebody seems to be listening. Hopefully someone on the blog has some influence with even one board member and can get them to understand how the average citizen feels about things.

9:27 AM, May 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are listening and taking notes. Lots of good thoughts are presented here. Don't think they go unnoticed.

12:31 PM, May 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think any misdeeds went unchecked with the former mayor stepping out of line at a party. My understanding is that the 'insulted' party was well paid off (another one the taxpayers are taking a hit on), and the mayor was told to resign, which he did.

I know some of you are trying to be supportive of the new mayor, thinking it will help crestwood in the long run, but I have to agree with those that say he isn't our answer...he isn't. If anyone should take a test to see if they know what their ELECTED post consists of, or should I say the limit if their power, it is Mr. Robinson.

What everyone should be watching is the person chosen to fill the city administrator's post. Spend some time looking into this gentleman's past, our board certainly didn't. Everyone was and is way to quick to move beyond what was there, and is way to quick to assume none of this will happen again.

1:09 PM, May 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:09pm Appreciated your comments. Some things are known, some are not. My thinking is that when a man commits a crime,he should pay, not his employer. Too soft on crime. A woman sexually harassed should not loose HER job. It seems the victum always is the one punished. I am told but no not know if it's true that there are ways anyone can go into a persons files to see about past performance. I know that if you have a police background, you are protected, in IL for sure, don't know about MO. But police seem to be able to get all kinds of information about private citizens. I think our present C/A was hired because most felt we couldn't get any worse than we had. As far as thinking it could not happen again, why do you think there are those of us that feel that belonging to the private swim club should not be the deciding reason to get votes. How about those with great expertise in being able to find the mistakes the wrong kind of person would deliberately hide from the board? We need some tests for all who work for the City. The policeman undergo a physchological profiling. There are so many people looking for work vs. the number of jobs available, we should be able to hire only the best.

4:03 PM, May 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Curious comment 1:09pm...what led you to the conclusion that Mayor Robinson does not know what his powers are?

10:17 PM, May 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hmm - so can we look forward to the insulted party RETURNING THE TAXPAYER MONEY??? - that is, if you really feel it's wrong for an employer to pay for an individual's "crime."

9:16 AM, May 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh maybe the 'insulted party' could go after the 'guilty' one and ask for a civil suit! O. J. got off scott free but lost the civil suit. Oh gosh, I almost forgot, you probably believe O.J. was guiltless too! You do seem to have trouble dividing fact from fiction.

9:28 PM, May 04, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

more likely the "injured" party decided to take the easy money and run. usually the "gag" order on settlements is to protect the woman in the situation - unfortunately for this person, can't put the incident behind her since she has told about 1,000 people.

9:12 AM, May 05, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From your statements of 'took the EASY money and ran' it would apprear you are a man with no good regard for women. How 'easy' would it be for you to be 'kicked out' of a position you loved, accused of things you are innocent of, demoted and end up not having the job you loved. For anyone who voted for this to be allowed to happen without going after the guilty 'man'. How unbelievable cowardly you must be. And no respect for women. Do you even respect yourself? I can imagine though why you'd not stand up and speak bravely, your 'buddy' probably didn't give you the nod!

9:51 AM, May 05, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Having talked with a very prominent lawyer from a nearby state about the sexual harassment lawsuit here a few years ago, he said (and he knew the settlement amount). This woman should own City Hall and if she'd had the right kind of representation, she would have. He even went so far as to suggest she get herself another lawyer and reopen the case. The 'gag' order seems to have some loop holes in it. If this were to happen, the aldermen who voted on this would be called back in to testify. This could get nasty!

10:01 AM, May 05, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Usually, when you refuse to show up for work for an extended period of time, people get fired. There is no basis for an age discrimination lawsuit involved even if you have worked for an employer for thirty years.

11:29 AM, May 05, 2006  
Blogger Crestwood Independent said...

Well for all of you who want to know what happened in the settled law suit's. You can go to City hall (Kim Cottle) with a Crestwood freedom of information act form (available on line at the City site on this blog,) request all the documents pertaining to whomever you wish to read about, and you will get them.

Please understand that these are not going to be free so take your check book with you. I am given to understand that as of today most all are available.

Tom Ford

4:09 PM, May 05, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey why doesn't someone do that and post the findings? Would save people time and money, right?

10:43 PM, May 05, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not sure what kind of deals can be formulated in just one day at this retailers meeting. I think that Ms Dailey could have gotten more accomplished by herself if she had attended alone for several days. I guess the buffet tables were too tempting for the other two attendees to pass up.

10:48 PM, May 05, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What kind of prospective retailers would want to commit to coming to a mall that has ownership problems? Now that the deal to purchase Crestwood Plaza might be off the table.

10:50 PM, May 05, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the 10:48 blogger, what kind of remark is that about "buffet tables"?

Don't we all wish we could be as perfect as you think you are!

1:20 PM, May 06, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So maybe the Mayor's stress is caused by smoking AND a less than perfect body?

2:26 PM, May 06, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Or it could be liberal's!

4:06 PM, May 06, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with the 1:20PM blogger. Let's compare Mayor Robinson/Mr. Myers to Mayor Robertson/Mr. Greer... Robinson/Myers moving Crestwood forward, Robertson/Greer almost destroyed it with $10,000 office decorating, BMW car allowances, $50,000 "Hands On the Help" Christmas Party Bloopers/Cover Ups, $2 million dollar police station drawings, "Social Relationships" with subordinates that cost more $$ in payouts and finally, $750,000 spent on lame lawyers and lawsuits. Did I miss anything?

11:08 AM, May 07, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lame lawyers! AMEN!!!!!!!!!

3:19 PM, May 07, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crestwood Plaza not sold yet.....

http://westfield.com/corporate/newsroom/announcements/2006/2006509_35905.html

11:34 AM, May 09, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope Ms. Dailey and Mr. Myers do most of the talking if we are to make any kind of impression. My co-worker heard the Mayor speak on the radio and was embarrassed for Crestwood. Hopefully just his presence will be enough.

10:57 PM, May 10, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Want to know who the new police chief is? Just read Tim Trueblood's blog. As of 7:20 May 11 an anonymous said a new police chief was appointed-a very controversial appt. A sergeant promited to chief bypassing a captain and lietenant. Great-results from an executive meeting less than 24 hours after the meeting. So someone is talking out of turn? So wouldn't it have to have been an alderman in attendance at the meeting? Wouldn't it also have to be someone tied to Mr. Trueblood? If information on the two blogs are running a race, Tim is winning, he has inside connections and apparently they aren't afraid to talk! This is under the title Committee Must Act Now!

9:26 AM, May 12, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, please don't talk about "talking out of turn". I am amazed at the information I have read on this site and wondering how "citizens" come about this information. Not posted on the city web site, not mentioned at BOA meetings, etc. Some people are just more special and receive insight before others.

11:05 AM, May 12, 2006  

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