Who's the more qualified candidate to serve as Ward Two Alderman?
Just when we all thought the bickering was coming to an end, what to my wondering eyes should appear but several little kid's passing out flyers from my "worthy opponent". As it should be at this state of the campaign, however let's examine point by point his flyer.
1. "Experienced in managing multi-million dollar budgets": Well I am, stop by my home, and I will show you last years, and year to date. Opponent says he is, but has anyone seen it? No you say? Well?
2. "Eager to bring 20+ years of marketing and public relations experience to the board to help Crestwood move forward": Ok, well how about 31 years of experience in the business world (management,) 11 years of it responsible for the employee payroll?
Has my opponent ever been responsible for making sure the employees are paid? Well no, he lives in a corporate world (SBC,) where he gets a check, and probably has no idea where it came from.
3. "4 1/2 years on the "Planning and zoning commission": Nine months experience on the Planning and zoning commission, but with 31 years in the construction related industry, I am able, ready and willing to see a project over budget on the spot! That's why I would never have voted for it, and would have advised my fellow commission members not to do so either.
4. "If elected may have to abstain from any vote relating to City budgets, personnel issues,benefits, ETC. Due to conflict of interest with City Personnel": Interesting that he mentions that detail. I would like to quote from a letter to the BOA from Mr Golterman, dated July 18, 2001. This memorandum was sent a few days after Messrs. Green, Pickel, and Kelleher voted to grant the C.U.P. to the Swim Club. Mr. Green stated that he called for the Ok from Mr. Golterman, and Mr. Golterman acknowledges his call, and his findings. However Mr. Golterman backs up his findings with a document from the RSMO:105 covering "conflict of interest, I quote verbatim, "Provisions applying specifically to judicial and quasi-judicial city positions". "The conflict of interest statute prohibits a municipal judge or a person in quasi-judicial position (EG. a board of adjustment member, P & Z member)from participating in proceedings where the official or a closely related party or where the official has a direct or indirect financial interest"! You will please note that it includes P & Z board members, and if you were a swim club stock holder, or a relative of a swim club stock holder or member, you had a very definite "Conflict of interest"! I requested these documents on a FOIA form, and it took over a week to find them, but there here now, so please feel free to come and examine them anytime! Now back to where I said this is interesting, He states that I "may have" a conflict of interest, but he has removed all doubt, he seconded the motion, and he voted for it! We know what he will do, go for the "conflict of interest every time as long as it benefits him, and his friends.
5. "95% of campaign support comes from Crestwood residents & family members": That's good, but from whom? He lists $1075.00 from persons giving $100.00 or less, and that's legal, he also has donations of $ 4.00 from anonymous donors, again OK. Now let's examine mine, I listed all direct donations of $100.00 and up, including $135.00 from the Prop. "S" people that was used for postage (600 letters sent @ .47 which included prop. "S" letters, and my letters.) Mr. Millford, will you please tell us, as I have, who made those contributions?
6. "Endorsed by the Suncrest Call, and CWA local 6310": Most all of us receive the Call, so please judge that for yourself! Now, reference the Communication Workers Of America, that's great, however it was not long ago (according to his supporters,) that being endorsed by a union (me) was a very bad thing indeed, read the blog. Are we to believe that my opponent has undergone an ephiany in recent weeks when it comes to "union" support? Boy's you cant have it both ways, union support is good, or its bad, which is it? And while your at it, please look into the fact the SBC has two or more unions representing their employees, I.B.E.W.for the working crews, and C.W.A. for management, and supervisory personnel?. Can some one clairify the difference for me?
ladies and Gentlemen, take a close look at both of us, don't believe everything you read and hear, call both of us before Tuesday, and then make up your own mind as to whom you want to represent you! Call me @ 314-341-2307 (cell), or 314-965-5792 (home), and I will be happy to discus the issues, or you can stop by for a visit (call me for directions.)
"My name is Tom Ford,and I want to be your Alderman from Ward Two"
Tom Ford
Ward Two
No.112
1. "Experienced in managing multi-million dollar budgets": Well I am, stop by my home, and I will show you last years, and year to date. Opponent says he is, but has anyone seen it? No you say? Well?
2. "Eager to bring 20+ years of marketing and public relations experience to the board to help Crestwood move forward": Ok, well how about 31 years of experience in the business world (management,) 11 years of it responsible for the employee payroll?
Has my opponent ever been responsible for making sure the employees are paid? Well no, he lives in a corporate world (SBC,) where he gets a check, and probably has no idea where it came from.
3. "4 1/2 years on the "Planning and zoning commission": Nine months experience on the Planning and zoning commission, but with 31 years in the construction related industry, I am able, ready and willing to see a project over budget on the spot! That's why I would never have voted for it, and would have advised my fellow commission members not to do so either.
4. "If elected may have to abstain from any vote relating to City budgets, personnel issues,benefits, ETC. Due to conflict of interest with City Personnel": Interesting that he mentions that detail. I would like to quote from a letter to the BOA from Mr Golterman, dated July 18, 2001. This memorandum was sent a few days after Messrs. Green, Pickel, and Kelleher voted to grant the C.U.P. to the Swim Club. Mr. Green stated that he called for the Ok from Mr. Golterman, and Mr. Golterman acknowledges his call, and his findings. However Mr. Golterman backs up his findings with a document from the RSMO:105 covering "conflict of interest, I quote verbatim, "Provisions applying specifically to judicial and quasi-judicial city positions". "The conflict of interest statute prohibits a municipal judge or a person in quasi-judicial position (EG. a board of adjustment member, P & Z member)from participating in proceedings where the official or a closely related party or where the official has a direct or indirect financial interest"! You will please note that it includes P & Z board members, and if you were a swim club stock holder, or a relative of a swim club stock holder or member, you had a very definite "Conflict of interest"! I requested these documents on a FOIA form, and it took over a week to find them, but there here now, so please feel free to come and examine them anytime! Now back to where I said this is interesting, He states that I "may have" a conflict of interest, but he has removed all doubt, he seconded the motion, and he voted for it! We know what he will do, go for the "conflict of interest every time as long as it benefits him, and his friends.
5. "95% of campaign support comes from Crestwood residents & family members": That's good, but from whom? He lists $1075.00 from persons giving $100.00 or less, and that's legal, he also has donations of $ 4.00 from anonymous donors, again OK. Now let's examine mine, I listed all direct donations of $100.00 and up, including $135.00 from the Prop. "S" people that was used for postage (600 letters sent @ .47 which included prop. "S" letters, and my letters.) Mr. Millford, will you please tell us, as I have, who made those contributions?
6. "Endorsed by the Suncrest Call, and CWA local 6310": Most all of us receive the Call, so please judge that for yourself! Now, reference the Communication Workers Of America, that's great, however it was not long ago (according to his supporters,) that being endorsed by a union (me) was a very bad thing indeed, read the blog. Are we to believe that my opponent has undergone an ephiany in recent weeks when it comes to "union" support? Boy's you cant have it both ways, union support is good, or its bad, which is it? And while your at it, please look into the fact the SBC has two or more unions representing their employees, I.B.E.W.for the working crews, and C.W.A. for management, and supervisory personnel?. Can some one clairify the difference for me?
ladies and Gentlemen, take a close look at both of us, don't believe everything you read and hear, call both of us before Tuesday, and then make up your own mind as to whom you want to represent you! Call me @ 314-341-2307 (cell), or 314-965-5792 (home), and I will be happy to discus the issues, or you can stop by for a visit (call me for directions.)
"My name is Tom Ford,and I want to be your Alderman from Ward Two"
Tom Ford
Ward Two
No.112
posted by Crestwood Independent at 15:25
37 Comments:
so, are all of the voters of ward 2 supposed to stop by your house to examine the big budget you supervise--how odd......
Nice try, but it is also hard to diminsh Mr. Pickel's job experience and education. What exactly is your "mystery job"
Further---your keep referring to Mr. Pickel's vote on the Swim Club CUP. You don't have your facts straight on that one. A single vote back in 2001 vs. your voting on budget and personnel issues in the city where your son could actually be directly impacted. Nice try---but is absolutely a ridiculous comparison. Mr. Pickel served as a volunteer for the city for 4 1/2 years--and attended plenty of meetings. How many board of alderman meetings or other meetings can you honestly say that you have attended.
You can refer to the flier as a source of bickering--but it is just the truth. Mr. Pickel is clearly HEAD AND SHOULDERS ABOVE you as far as qualifications go...
Mr Ford--why do you refer to Mr. Pickel as your "worthy opponent"--what's with the quotation marks?
I was grateful to see the young people of Crestwood supporting Mr. Pickel by passing out fliers for him. From what I can tell you have not set foot--or driven--down my street. Mr. Pickel has made a strong effort to spread the word, go door to door, and communicate with the residents of ward 2. Are you just hiding behind your Bliggety blog?
Yes, its quicker than driving down town to see the SBC budget (if he has one), and, call Mr Pickel whatever you wish, he still participated in a "conflict of interest"! A "single vote" in 2001? Well, if he did it once, he will do it again, won't he? I have my facts streight, I have the memeo, remember! Get your facts streight before you chalenge! the "truth", better yet, pay the money, and read it for yourself!
Quotation marks? Come now, you went to school, no? Figure it out for yourself!
Mr. Pickel served as a volunteer?, great, did he "volunteer" for the armed forces? No? Well, why why not?
Face it, all of us do not believe what he is saying, nor do they believe your remarks about "my biggetry"! If you want to discuss "biggetry", and diviseness, may I suggest we discuss the private club, known as the "Crestwood Swim Club", where a review of the membership roster suggests that no African American, no Asian, and no Hispanic families belong to the club that my "worthy opponent" does!
Wow, and this is 2006! Yes, he is "head and shoulders" above me! I never would have thought to do that to an American citizen who deserves the right to participate in the American dream!
Did any of your people stop at the home on Rayburn of a family, who the father is an ex Navy Seal? No?, thought not! Here is a Crestwood citizen who fought for his Country, and deserves all the respect we can afford him (if you doubt me, ask Charlie Berry.) Can he be a "Crestwood swim club member"? You tell me!!!!
Face it people, your lame attempts to dis-credit me, in favor of your man (Chris Pickel,) are in fact that, Lame!
If you want Chris, well by all means, vote for him, but please, try not to display your ignorance of the fact's by posting that which is not so!
"Liberals, it's not that they are ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so"
Ronald Reagan
"my name is Tom Ford, and I want to be your Alderman from Ward Two"
Tom Ford
Ward two
Mr. Ford, you past commente are the exact reason I will not be voting for you. You lack what it takes to be in the public eye. Such comments regarding Mr. Pickel's employer, church, and friends in the community are not necessary and it shows your true colors. Too much negativity. If you can't say anything nice, don't say it at all. I don't believe that Mr. Pickel has based is campaign on attacking others. He's got my vote.
First of all, no one mentioned bigotry (it is spelled bigotry not biggetry--that's where an education comes in handy)
Second--Unclear about your reference to Crestwood Swim Club
How did Mr. Pickel benefit from the vote for Crestwood swim club? How could your son benefit from your votes as an employee of the city of crestwood?
Third--are you psychic? What do you know about the swim club roster and how can you read a list of names to determine whether someone is White, African American, Asian or Hispanic?
Still didn't answer the other questions-you just dodged them--as usual.
Why haven't you been out working the ward?
Also--how can you possibly try to diminsh Mr. Pickel's job experience when your job is still a gigantic mystery...
It just occurred to me that this city is divided. And I am not surprised. We are human and we have our differences of opinion. But for as long as I can remember, Crestwood has had division and differences of opinion. Election after election, supporters of the candidates opposing one another would square off and take jabs at each other, verbal jabs as best I can remember. But never have I seen a drop of blood shed over the issues. The only injuries seem to be injured egos, hurt feelings and maybe now and then a sore throat from all the verbal sparring. During all the buildup and excitment that surrounds this event on April 4th, we get so carried away with history that we lose sight of what we are really all here for. We are here to rally around what we believe to be a pretty nice city to live in and raise our families. Crestwood is full of citizens who grew up here, went away to college, got married and moved back. It was not the low taxes, a desire for a spirited political fight, who the Mayor was or who was serving on the Board of Aldermen that brought them back, it was the community and the quality of life they experienced here as a child in Crestwood. And believe it or not most residents do not attend the board meetings or give a hoot what goes on here or is said in the local papers as long as their city remaims a great place to live. I firmly believe that we, the citizens of Crestwood are going to be ever more vigilant of there elected representatives and expect nothing less than the best from every last one of them. The bar has been set very high and it will be up to each and every city department manager and elected official to fulfill there sworn obligation to this city. I can only hope that each and every one of them are prepared to work as a team because as the saying goes "There is no I in team". People, this is your city, and we ARE moving forward but it takes a unified effort. So please, if you aren't going to lead or follow, then get out of the way because there is no room in this effort for dead weight.
Calling some of the folks in your ward bigots!--that is pretty low. You should be ashamed of yourself.
1. I think even the junior FBI agent could find out about SBC's financial status.
2. Sometimes I can be uncertain about the care I would receive at a hosiptal. Some nurses and doctors get C's and some get A's. Which did you get? C's. Resumes don't always tell about the quality of the job. Remarks like "probably has not idea where it (paycheck) came from? Not necessary.
3. I know people in the contruction industry that don't pay their employees in a timely manner. Are you one of them?
4. Conflict of interest? If you are elected, there are numerous items you would not be able to vote on, unless your son resigns after your election.
5. I believe that you had stated YOU personally were going to fund your campaign. What happened to that?
6. You can't compare the 2 unions. Apples and oranges.
You have chosen to be so spiteful and continue to attack. Unbelievable.
To the previous blogger (10:27): Yeah, I guess you can't compare the two unions. One fights for the rights of it's members. The other allows jobs to be outsourced. Now, I'm sure that some people are going to say that I'm a firemen or that I'm Tom Ford even. Sorry! I'm just a concerned voter in ward 2 that just so happens to pay attention to this blog site among other things (crestwood swim club) like our city government. Sure, Mr. Ford might have to abstain from voting from time to time and I don't care for that, but Chris is going to be carrying alot of baggage with him that our city doesn't need! I hear that Elliot Davis has come calling about the money pit otherwise known as the "swim club", and some of the "votes" that were made on its behalf. Another black eye this city does not need. If you want to compare "unions" then I think we could make a great debate Mr. Pickel.
You know what? The spelling is exactly what your group used in previous post's!
"that's where education comes in handy", well, let me tell you what an elderly Gentleman once told me. "Some folks are educated beyond the level of their intellegence".
You will be voting for Mr. Pickel, well imagin that! Who else would you vote for? " I have dodged all the questions", well, I have chosen to answer them here, where is PICKEL?
Call a duck a rabbit if you wish, but it's still a DUCK! Please explain to Crestwood how your man's vote helped diversity? And while your at it, please tell us why he has voted for an entity that improved his bottom line? (I.E. swim club)!
Please explain how his vote for the C.U.P. to permit a "new facility" to be constructed, (which enhanced his stock value,IE, the swim club)had any value to the City of Crestwood?
Please vote for whom you wish, but, please do not try to insult the intellegence of the the citizens of Crestwood with your scanctimonious rantings. You remind me of an Arther Miller play ( Death of a Salesman,) "They loved me in Philadelphia"!
My name is Tom Ford, and I want to be your Alderman from Ward Two"
Tom Ford
Ward Two
Yawn.
It is very sad that you have continually referenced this pool vote as some sort of scandal, etc. when you do not have your facts straight. Just because you want it to be true, does not make it true.
Apparently, the junior FBI agent has been sniffing around your house filling your mind with half-truths and inaccuracies that you have latched on to. It shows your character that you are so quick to jump on a bandwagon and take a position when you do not have all of the facts and figures in front of you. You have done your own research, but not taken the time or trouble to find out all of the facts and look at the entire picture. Is this what we have to look forward to if you would be elected? Seems to me that is the exact thing you are criticizing everyone else for.
I would be very careful about criticizing Mr. Pickels' behavior, actions, words, when you have spent plenty of time blowing hot air all over this blog, slamming people's experience and skills and calling people in your ward bigots.
Faye Clark lives in Ward One and can not vote in the election she is commenting on. Notsaying that she cant express her views on the election.
Also, Ms. Clark said when she and others voted for increasing the lenght of the Sunset on the Capital Improvements Tax, she didnt know she what she was voting for. Fact is she didnt vote in that election.
Take her claims, statements and positions with a grain of salt.
There's a lot being said about what Faye Clark said. Your right I didn't vote for the aforementioned sunset clause because I wasn't in town.
Question: do you believe that just because you're sending things into the blog under anonymous that your message can't be traced. Come on, children, do you know what day and age we live in. If we can catch terrorist sending messages in our country, you think you're safe hiding behind anonymous! I find that amazing considering we all understand how truly amazing our technology is today. Faye Clark
Well we only have one more day! Do we spend it on flamboyant claims,
smug inuendoes, and "he said, she said".
I hesitate to sign my name on this one because now desperation is in the
air and that means everybody is fair game to the hail and haughty group, and
those who are part of the previous administration and still cling to the
coat-tails of Tom Fagan and his quartet. I have read every blog message on this
site, and I still say that Tom Ford has been more than fair with Mr. Pickel.
That's my call and that's what I stand by. But don't slam me for it. Others
have yawned, were more interested in correcting misspelled words and grammar,
anything to create confusion and chaos.
Enough is enough. Vote your conscience. But you should understand that
if you think that it is OK for Mr. Pickel and his crew to slam Tom Ford and
his supporters, the same is going to happen to you. Let's not get into "well he
started it first" cause then it becomes childish banter used when we were
kids.
Decisions will have to be made on the board after this is all over. We will
have to live with those decisions but for those who will choose to play
politics - they should bloody well know that they can be recalled, whoever they
are.
Good Luck and God Bless.
Sandy Grave
Ms. Clark - you are able to trace bloggers & who sends the comments? Please advise how you know how to do this. If this is correct let me know - I find it disturbing.
Maybe that is why I have not received any literature or visits from Mr. Ford or his supporters. (besides mailings)
Mr. Ford, It appears that you were not involved in the BOA meetings when the Crestwood Swim Club was being "taken over" by Kohl's. I thought you were against emminent domain. Guess not. You would have tried to help the private property against the developer. At least that is what you have stated. Changed your mind?
Do you belong to any private organizations? There is nothing wrong wanting to belong to an organization where your children can go and be safe. Or a place to meet family and friends. I believe Crestwood pool has had several problems in the past. (adults exposing themselves to children, other children swimming in underwear)
Mr. Ford, I thought you were not going to be stating any more ideas on this site or answering any additional questions. I thought maybe you were going read citizens remarks and see how to represent the total community, not just the ones you agree with - Then another comment bashing others. This is not what we need in Crestwood. Silence would have been better than to get into the soap opera crap. I guess you have your own "group".
Mrs. Clark states the anonymous postings can be traced, maybe Ms. Madrid will trace the person who called her on this blogg site, a prostitue payed for with city funds. That would be an interesting court case.
By admiting she didnt vote because she was out of town, is Mrs. Clark admiting to not telling the truth? Or is she now claiming she never said she voted for the extended Sunset and knew all along what it meant to vote for it? Very mixed up bag of facts we have here. Which story is the truth?
Mr. Ford belongs to the Masons.
The Masons!!! Maybe that is why Mr. Ford bashes the supporters of Mr. Picke from his church!! Makes sense now. Amazing what information you can get from this site. Thanks.
Mr. Ford--what if your VFW lodge was situated on land that was needed for development. Would you have gladly handed over your Private VFW lodge to the developer for only the assessed value? or would you have wanted to be paid enough money to rebuild your VFW lodge in a comparable location and in a way that would meet all current codes--handicapped accessible etc. etc. And as a member of the VFW--would you have received a personal financial gain from the new building? No, you wouldn't. Somehow, I suspect that if this were your home or your club--you would have had a complete FIT if someone tried to seize it using eminant domain and did not compensate your organization in a way that would enable you to rebuild your VFW lodge. Think about it.
better yet, make that the MASONIC LODGE!!
better yet, make that the MASONIC LODGE!!
Do you own stock in a Masonic Lodge or in a VFW place?
What are the membership requirements for a Masonic Lodge and for a VFW place?
Do you own Real Estate in a Masonic Lodge or in a VFW place?
Does the Masonic and VFW own their own parking lot for the members and for their guests to park?
http://www.ewtn.org/vexperts/showmessage.asp?Pgnu=1&Pg=Forum9&recnu=14&number=464290
Still, in the U.S., the Pastoral Research and Practices Committee Report of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops, "Masonry and Naturalistic Religion," issued 1985, stated: "Even though Masonic organizations may not in particular cases plot against the faith, it would still be wrong to join them because their basic principles are irreconcilable with those of the Catholic faith." However, this is not a law, and local bishops are competent to make judgments about whether Catholics in their dioceses may join Masonic lodges.
I am not an expert on Masonry but only on canon law. If someone is involved in Masonry here in the U.S., I think that person should carefully consider these doctrinal concerns of the German bishops, and of course a Catholic should consider the statements I quoted above and defer to the judgment of his local bishop in case of any doubt.
One of our candidates is truly desparate today, passing out flyers filled with misinformation. That will come back to haunt him. Why would any intelligent man put himself in the position to be found out (after he's elected) that he did this. How embarassing, both to himself and the people who voted for him. Shame, shame!
Very few people are experts on Masonry. I can tell you this though, all of the founding fathers, and most of our Presidents have been "Master Masons". We live in the year 2006, not 1206 when the knights Templer returned from the Crusades to be persecuted by the Church, in fact there are many "Master Masons" who are also Catholic, as are Lutheran's, Baptist's, ET AL.
Masonry is not a religion as some believe, but a way life. Masonry is more of a "code of conduct", a moral compass, if you will.
I think you would be very surprised to find that many of your neighbors are members, and you never knew it!
seems like the anonymous poster at 7:17 is Tom Ford himself--sounds just like him ET AL
are there any blacks, hispanics, asians or women in Mr. Ford's Masonic Lodge?--I perused the membership list and did not see any of these minorities included. This does not promote diversity in our community. I am concerned that he is a member of such a club.
Here we go with the pit bull frenzy. The person states one thing and
oops, they all get on the bandwagon and start bledgeoning Tom Ford. I have seen
so much more of this coming from the Pickel headquarters than anything Tom Ford
has ever said on this blog.
Now you are on the "Mason" kick. Well I don't care who is a mason or who
is on the Mason-Dixon Line, you people do nothing but abuse and carry on like
only the people with underhanded motives.
God help us all, if we are doublecrossed and your people end up elected.
If so, you will see Crestwood citizens who will take whatever measures
necessary to 86 you right out the door. We have all had enough.
apparently Mr. Ford called the psychic friends hotline and made some pretty presumptious statements about Mr. Pickel's club memberships--how come no one can question Mr Ford's?
Be cause "It's not nice to fool Mother Nature".
Missouri Synod Lutherans CANNOT be a Mason.
Mr. Ford - if someone posts an anonymous comment - can it be traced back to the person posting? Just trying to get the facts.
Mr. Ford has gone to bed early, will need all the sleep he can get because tomorrow will be a very long day for him and all the canidates. Plus there's the victory party after the polls closed.
Ward 2 voters decided who the most qualified person was to serve as their alderman on election day.
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