Retired employee may be moving to another job, new police chief named!
In what may turn out to be a scoop of our local press, the Crestwood Independent has learned that one of our prior employees has, or will accept the position of City Administrator for the City of Fairview Heights, Illinois!
While this comes from a very good source, it is not completely vetted as of this writing, so I bring it to you as a rumor (a darn good one,) but never the less a rumor. If this, as I suspect turns out to be true, please join me in wishing our former employee "God speed, and good luck"!
Also we have learned that our new police chief has been named as of last week, as a news release was issued by the city. Please join me in welcoming Chief Mike Paillou to the position! Chief paillou brings a great deal of knowledge to the job, having started in Crestwood in 1983, and will be a great asset to Crestwood.
Tom Ford
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While this comes from a very good source, it is not completely vetted as of this writing, so I bring it to you as a rumor (a darn good one,) but never the less a rumor. If this, as I suspect turns out to be true, please join me in wishing our former employee "God speed, and good luck"!
Also we have learned that our new police chief has been named as of last week, as a news release was issued by the city. Please join me in welcoming Chief Mike Paillou to the position! Chief paillou brings a great deal of knowledge to the job, having started in Crestwood in 1983, and will be a great asset to Crestwood.
Tom Ford
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posted by Crestwood Independent at 15:22
109 Comments:
God help Fairview Heights! They have no idea what they're getting! That is providing their new CA drives a black BMW.
A sergeant promoted to chief? Bypassing a qualified captain & lieutenant? Did the mayor promise this officer advancement within the department? The mayor seems to make sure all of his friends get appointed to boards, committees and NOW paid postions. Yeah, congratulations Mr. Paillou, wonder how you got your promotion!
God help Crestwood!
So the Mayor has a new designated driver to drive him home from Malone's and the Growler.
If the comment regarding the promotion in the police department is true, I wonder how it will take for more of staff to seek other job opportunities? Maybe that is "politics" of the promotion.
Does anyone know whether or not the qualified captain and/or lieutenant even wanted this position? Hasn't Mr. Palliou been with us for some 22 years? Isn't it possible that Mr. Palliou has done a great job and just happens to be a friend of our Mayors? You know it's been said. There is bad in the best of us and good in the worse of us. Is there no middle ground in which to give somebody a chance? Would you be happier if we just get taken over by St. Louis County? Do you think it can't happen? Do you believe that all the Mayor's friends get favors? You may find this hard to believe, but there are those of us who want Crestwood healthy and seek nothing for ourselves. Find this hard to believe? Think about it in church tomorrow!
It is not a question of whether someone else wanted the position but who was the most qualified. Why wasn't a search done including candidates outside of the department to find the best qualified person. The old saw is that it was done the most qualified due to the City's financial condition but everyone knows it was simply to get a friend into a position of power and intimidation. The emperor has no clothes and I don't expect to see him in church unless it's publicity op.
Has it ever occoured to anyone bloveating here about this promotion that the Capt. and Lt. did not really want the job?
Have you thought about promotion from witin being a good thing for morale?
And last but not least, why are you so concerned about a man with his experience guiding the police department? He got his promotion by being a leader, and a person who the troop's look up to!
Could it be your now worried about your own drive back from? We all know that the Mayor will never be able to do anything in your eyes that is good, and that you won't be happy until one of yours is back in, so we take your complaints with a grain of salt!
Good job Mike!
For those concerned,
The Lt. is going to the private sector in a new job. He wasn't even a cop when he was hired here in the first place. HE DIDN"T EVEN HAVE A CRESTWOOD POLICE UNIFORM! HE DIDN'T HAVE THE RESPECT OF HIS SUBORDINATES!
A very qualified police captain who has been with Crestwood far longer than this sergeant did want this position, and did go through the interviews. And no, they did not advertise outside of Crestwood. Why do that when the mayor already had his mind made up.
This is politics as usual, at least for mayor Robinson, giving his drinking buddy a job as chief, a buddy who is not nearly as qualified for this position. If you don't believe these rumors, just ask the fine young ladies who waitress down at Malone's and know these two well.
God help Crestwood!
I think we are getting a little too close to the "personal attacks" I discussed previously!
And need I remind you what happens when you do that?
Please keep it civil!!!
Tom Ford
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To the 1:33 blogger,
Tim, is that you?
You know Mr. Ford maybe you shouldn't be so quick to warn people about personal attacks. These rumors are mostley true. Malone's has been a meeting place for a long time for a select few. Just ask the employee's or customers who eat there and see the same officers for hours on end. Its no big secret, but they want us to forget the last year or two and help build the bridge now. Nothing has change, its just a different day same stuff. New faces, that's all.
The Lieutenant, worked at University City as a cop, and please who ever you are, don't speak for the rest of us about respect. He's made mistakes like everyone else on the police department. No one's perfect, and besides he's going to leave and better himself, like most of the others who have left the department. The staff aren't the only ones looking because of this injustice. Good luck to those officers that are trying to leave.
One Captain didn't apply for whatever reason. The other Captain who started at Crestwood when he was 19 as a dispatcher is the hardest working man there at 6:30 a.m. every morning and stays when everyone else goes home. If i had to guess the Captain has been there around 35 years. He is very qualified, has his degree, been to one of the academy's that prepares staff for chief's postions. Yes, he did go through the process. However, no one was surprise and saw this coming and in some cases were told. This has been in the face of the Police Department for quite sometime.
Besides all of you miltary personal, when have you seen a Sgt, get a promotion like this, unless you live in North County with a city that ends in dale or village.
Besides its not all the mayors fault the board approved the choice. Maybe they never met the Captain or heard of him in all of his years of service. Or maybe the Captain play the game fair and we see where that will get you.
In a department that was suppose to avoid politics and was lectured to stay clear, the door has been opened. So every three years we will be looking at more behind the scenes backing stabing. Maybe in two years for the next trick an officer can move up to chief. Anything is possible now. I would love to sign my name but hey, no one else does. Thanks, concerned individuals
What sounds better to you?
CRESTWOODALE
or
CRESTWOOD VILLAGE
I favor Village just because of the way it rolls off the tougue when you say it. Plus, there is no such thing as a Dale idiot like there is a Village idiot.
Why would the BOA have to approve the choice of Police Chief? I don't think that is needed. Am I wrong here?
So the metamorphosis of Crestwood into Chicago under Mayor Daley continues, but then we already knew the Mayor's mentor learned his tricks at the feet of the demoncraps in the Missouri House. That's why he voted to keep one of them as Speaker, over a prolife candidate. This is a truly sickening turn of events for our city, and should be the impetus for people to begin recruiting a solid candidate to deliver our city from this kabal.
I would like to call for all of our aldermen to re-evalate the positions the mayor has appointed since he went into office, from voluntary to paid. I have met Sgt. Paillou, and I am appalled that this man was appointed chief of police, and it scares me as a resident that he is leading our police department.
Everyone called for the new board of aldermen to 'work with the new administration', well, they did and this is what we get?? You can take that new tax increase I voted for because my aldermen endorsed it, and call up St. Louis County for professional Police service, not some small town mayor's buddy.
Who can explain the connection between a man's uniform and his gun? Is it true that the gun is part and parcel of the uniform? Is our new police chief 'allowed' to carry a gun? to think of any law enforcement offices not having a gun-this just doesn't seem to be in the normal realm of things or am I wrong?
Isn't Greer still technically police chief until sometime this summer? How can there be two chiefs? Is there still time to call for a re-evaluation of this hiring process before one is permanently appointed?
I know the captain referred to that was bypassed for this position, and I can't believe that he isn't currently chief. He is well-known through the residential and business community, he is a long-term resident of crestwood, and is very dedicated to the police department.
Can our alderman ask for a new process to be conducted?
Not Crestwood Village, the Village of Crestwood, it has a quaint, charming ring to it.
What the heck, with this latest news about the new chief. Lets just call it for what it is, I say Crestweird.
Or the villages of Crestweird, cause anything seems possible at this point. This is unheard of in this area. Can't wait to see what happens next.
Hint on what happen's next:
Mayor steps down due to health issues between now and Nov.06. Miguel becomes acting Mayor till April'07. In April'07 election, the Mayor's job is up for election for a one year term, and Miguel's seat as Alderman from Ward 3 for a 3 yr term. Miguel runs for both, if he wins Mayor he resigns as Alderman and names his replacement. He as Mayor would serve till April'08 when the current Mayor's term is set to expire, at which time he runs as an incumbdant. Not sure when the person Miguel picked for to replace him as Alderman would have to be elected for their office, have to leave that up to the Cities lawyer, which means all bets are off. Can anyone out there top this after what we have seen in the first year of the mayor's term?
We have had two tax increases.
We now have the following on the City of Crestwood Payroll:
1. two city administrators
2. one finance director
3. two police chief's
Expect a tax increase at every election to pay all of these salaries and law fees!
You better start getting a second job or a job if retired!
What else did Mayor Robinson promise for his position?
How much can the city of Crestwood afford with all of the mayor's favors?
Will the Malone's employees get a new job at city hall?
Has anyone taken pictures of the scenes at Malone's?
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Correction to this blog:
We have had two tax increases.
We now have the following on the City of Crestwood Payroll with all of the severance packages and lawsuit settlements:
1. three city administrators - Don Greer, Frank Myers, Kent Leichliter
2. two finance directors - Diane Madrid, Bob Wuebbles
3. two police chief's Don Greer, Mr. Palliou
Expect a tax increase at every election to pay all of these salaries and law fees!
You better start getting a second job or a job if retired!
You will not afford to join the Crestwood Swim Club with all of these salaries and tax increases!
You don't have to take a picture. The witness list is endless, you would have to beat them off with a stick. What about that older officer that was always down at cigaretts for less. He had his on parking space on the side of the building. Everytime I stopped for my pack he was there standing around. I guess there was a lot of crime at the store.
Next we will see that lawyer that was at Malone's all the time with the lieutenant, be on some board or serving the court in some fashion.
Why haven't all the watch dog groups in Crestwood come to fight or take notice over these issues. Isn't this what everyone claims the other C/A was doing. It seems to me that if there is smoke there is fire! Just wondering?
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Okay, Big Enos and Little Enos (Smokey and the Bandit keep popping into my head), are now heading up our little village. I would expect it's only a matter of time before the third party of that trio, a certain lawyer who lost his bid for alderman, becomes the city's prosecutor or judge.
The witness list IS long, to both the mayor's actions and the new chief's past. Elliot Davis may soon be investigating our new chief's history with regard to sexual misconduct allegations and racial discrimination issues.
No wonder our police officers are dismayed.
They come in all shapes, sizes, and makes of vehicle...European AND American!!!
Personal attacks: "these rumors are MOSTLY true"? What's that mean, you wish they were? And to the "concerned" amoung us, if you saw all of this at Malones, it must mean that you were there, elsewise how did you see it?
We all know how much you miss your old Mayors, but that era is over! And believe me the vast majority of Crestwood never want's to see it return.
Like it or not we have a new Mayor, Mr. Roy Robinson, ans from what I have seen of him, he's doing very well.
Now you all have two more years to recruit a candidate from the swim club, social club, or whatever your circle of friends might be, it's the American way! Why not just do it, and forget about the fact that your ideas, and methods were rejected buy the citizens of Crestwood!
I know, I did not win either, so be it, but you have not seen, or heard me say one un-kind or nasty word about Mr. Chris Pickel since the election, nor will you unless it's warranted (knowing him I doubt it will ever happen.)
Get over your hate, join the crowd, and put Crestwood first.
Tom Ford
so, it would it be the Village idiot of Crestwood or the Idiot of the Village of Crestwood or Village of Crestwood's Idiot? Crestwierd Idiot, nah, does't have any ring to it.
Where or where is Elliot Davis when this City needs him?
If the claims against the Police Chief that the Mayor appointed turn out to be true. a re-call is in order!
Hello Overland, come in, over.
Actually, Tom, I didn't favor ANY of the old mayors, administration, know nothing about the swim club (and since I'm not a resident in that ward, that discussion is BORING me), don't understand the whole 'fagan vs. robinson' group, don't know which alderman are which, and didn't know I needed to belong to a 'side' before reading this blog.
Also, my neighbors and friends around town discuss this blog, and they too, have no connections to any of the people or topics discussed here(no, we don't have a title and don't consider ourselves any particular social group).
That being said, we still don't like what we are seeing at City Hall, we are NOT impressed with Roy Robinson or any of the selections or appointments he has made, and ARE concerned about Crestwood's future with Roy, Mr. Myers and this Seargent friend of Roy's becoming Chief.
So, before you hurt yourself jumping to conclusions about everyone that reads your blog, please consider that this isn't a battle between two sides, and that perhaps the average citizens that have been around a very long time see a repeat of history that isn't taking us in a good direction.
I don't think everything here is hate (although some obviously is), but it is also an opportunity to share information that others might not be aware of.
I am part of the 'crowd', and do want to see Crestwood come first, but that doesn't mean drinking the kool-aid. I would hope if you had been elected alderman that you wouldn't have so easily dismissed items being discussed here as hatred, and would have wanted answers to some of these allegations, especially when it comes to the police department, since that is your background.
Maybe the next election you and Mr. Pickle can both represent your ward, and perhaps your constituents will want you there if you are the first to investigate what is going on behind City Hall doors, not just at the public meetings that we attend.
That was very articulate previous poster. I could not have said it better myself. I tend to believe that the majority of people in the City are not caught up in all of the soap opera nonsense and are simply concerned about their community. Well said.
A question, if anyone knows, will the new chief of police be required to live within the city limits of Crestwood like the fire chief? Also, has the new city administrator relocated to a crestwood address?
I asked some questions about this new chief today, and learned that he lives in Hillsboro and teaches a class in guns in Hillsboro (is this a conflict holding another position like this?)
I have lived here for 45 years and I am old but not dead. I have heard the same bantor everytime a new mayor gets in and appoints people. Persons appointed on boards and commissions and persons appointed as department heads are never the right ones. And the same old bunch of cry babies wail about it wanting this one or that one to be appointed to their wills.
Mayors have all done the same thing, and if you don't agree, you are just totally brain dead and don't do your research. Chances are you never wanted this mayor to be elected in the first place. That's the real gripe in a nutshell!
You can go on and on with this and crab about it from now until the end of time. No mayor appoints people he doesn't know or doesn't have faith in. He is mayor and was chosen by the people. If you don't agree, run for mayor next time and see how well you do under the scrutiny of 13,000 plus popluation in this town and see if you can make them all happy.
If you want to criticize this mayor, then criticize all the other ones too.
All I have to say is this mayor has to be better than the one who originally appointed Don Greer, Police Chief and City Administrator.
I agree with blogger at 7:47 pm, May 13th. God help Fairview Heights! I wonder how many people will loose their jobs under Greer's watch.
13,000 plus population in Crestwood? That poster sure knows Crestwood. HAHAHAHA
Horse Apples, poster 7:08p.m. pure horse apples. You just proved what poster's have been trying to say here for a long time. Any one who doesn't support this Mayor is called a Faganite or a supporter of Greer. Are you so wrapped up in cult of this Mayor's personality that you can not see that he is making a big mistake?
To claim that to critize this mayor you must critize all the others is lowest form of political intellegence.
Just because you have lived here 45 years doesn't mean you can't be wrong, because on this issue you are wrong, dead wrong.
I haven't lived here 45 years, but it's been over half that, and I can tell you that I have seen enough mayors come and go that this is a different scenario.
Previous mayor's did not use this position to give their friends jobs. Some of the folks that this mayor replaced had been on their volunteer citizen boards since Pat Killoren. That means they saw a lot of mayors come and go, but didn't get ousted from their devotion to Crestwood. One I might add they didn't get paid to do.
I also never heard of a mayor having anything to do with hiring a police chief, fire chief, or any other employee in Crestwood. Look what happened in Overland when the mayor there tried to do it. We should have taken it as a warning when this mayor said he had full time to devote to this job because he was retired. That isn't what this position was intended to be. If we want that type of government, we don't need a city administrator getting paid to do his bidding, we'll just let Robinson do it.
We won't have to decide between Crestwood Dale or Village, because the name will be changed altogether to Robinsontown.
Better than Greertown.. AKA Fairview Heights!
Previous blogger - were you living in Crestwood when Jim Robertson was mayor? What about when Fagan was mayor?
Jim Robertson and Greer became good friends when Robertson was alderman. When Robertson became mayor, he eased Leichliter out and put Greer in that post, with a healthy car allowance and $200.00 plants for his office. Robertson appointed Bernie Alexander, a friend, to fill his post for alderman. He also appointed Alexander and Carol Wagner, two people he worked with during the annexation of 97-98, to the TIF Commission. They also ended up on the Charter Committee through Fagan. The Charter Committee was made up of Fagan supporters, such as Alexander, Wagner, and Brophy. If anyone in this town, thinks that Roy is the first to appoint allies or supporters to boards, then he or she is not willing to see the truth.
Robertson was smart in that he allied himself with Mike Anthony. He got good press coverage that helped propel him to mayor.
Don't think previous mayors were pure as Snow White.
Blogger 9:14, you just proved blogger 8:01 points to 100% correct...Thank Youuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe that's the point that all of this behavior by any of the previos mayor's isn't right. Lets get away from it and put some honest people, that won't reward their buddy. I would think its all a conflict of intrest and they need to remove themselve from it. Let's not keep repeating the past with these type of people.
Agreed!
9:27 PM No mayor other than the current mayor from Killoren forward decimated the citizen volunteers on boards, commissions and committees when they were elected mayor. The current mayor is the only one to intentionally appoint his cronies at least one of whom is not appointed properly. Prior to the present mayor aldermen recommemded to the previous mayors volunteers for appointmentregardless of who they supported in a particular election. Now this mayor is appointing a friend (even the appointee brags about his friendship with the mayor) to a paid staff position. We need a new mayor.
isn't calling someone brain dead or a bunch of cry babies a personal attack? it's a good thing that tom ford didn't get elected if that's how he and his cronies are going to react to any comment from citizens at large. let's start now recruiting someone to run against him in the next election!
Let's ask for a recall on the mayor, and contact all of our aldermen and put an end to what is going on. Let's ask our aldermen to step in and conduct a new hiring process for chief of police and to evaluate appointments to boards and commissions.
Lots to read and digest here! One question I would pose is: where do you find a truly honest man? It seems no matter who you put in they have some sort of agenda - no exceptions! I personally believe the last biggest mistake we made was to use a TIF for Kohls. Very intelligent people with a background if TIFs, CIDs, and TDDs can explain why TIFs always hurt more than they help. I do not agree with former C/A Don Greer who was quoted in a WoodRiver IL paper as saying 'having a TIF is like having your cake and eating it too'. The people who make almost all the money from a TIF is the contractor. If you don't understand how this works, let's get someone in who will hold a meeting of citizens and explain it so that all can understand. Hopefully there are a lot of you out there in 'blogland' who might know such a person. Any offers of help?
"biggest mistake we made was to use a TIF for Kohls." I guess you would prefer a vacant lot and buildings. There were no interesed parties in Crestwood until Kohls. The BOA were trying to generate long term revenue for the city.
You mean there were no interested parties until TIF. Do you know how little money Crestwood gets out of that? And you're right about long term (long term in getting to the point where Crestwood gets the profit) Oh, but in the meanwhile places like Famous-Barr lost lots of customers and we were getting much better returns from them than we are now. Lots of lost revenue. We need a TIF teacher badly!
FOR 4:54 PM May 14th. I recommend that the blog use its power to go after the insane person who put the swatiga sign on the blog. We need not only to get away from this person but maybe go even further. To have the mentality to want to do this tells you this boys in real trouble, lets hope he's not one who has any power to make decisions in Crestwood. I'm sure he feels he's untouchable, but we know better. Anyone else upset at this?
12:41 PM What is a swatiga sign? I don't know what you mean. Please explain your concern as I cannot determine what is there.
I don't think we can question the TIF in hindsight. First of all, that TIF was handled by the Assistant City Administrator, Mr. Conley, when Mr. Lichliter was still in office, if my memory serves me.
Secondly, Crestwood has enough trouble cultivating the interest of business. I don't know that we were in a position to argue. I for one was sick of looking at that empty lot smack in the middle of our business district.
What would be a mistake is giving a major corporation with unlimited funds such as Westfield any breaks or incentives. Everyone should wake up. There were dozens of upscale business slated to come into Sunset Hills. Many of these businesses would have been new to the St. Louis area altogether. Westfield should have jumped on their commitment to this area and sunk millions into the mall to move that development down the road to Crestwood.
Let's not give any breaks to a company that would like to unload that property and will have to nickel and dime it to get it in condition to put back on the market.
Of course we're still dealing with the same administration that put the brakes on a major housing development that would have improved our marketability at grant and watson because of a little piece of property that sells cigarettes. I'm a little worried about their business savvy.
Amen blogger 4:36, right on mark, great work, correct history, brave post.
Question is, will "Roy's Boys" believe it?
To the 12:41, 5/16 blogger. Please tell me where you saw a swastika sign! I have looked for it, and I don't see one. And yes I am very concerned!
If it's there I will remove it at once!
Tom Ford
Actually, the biggest thing that was slated to go in the Sunset Hills Development was the Crestwood Famous. The mall has one big problem that won't be solved by Westfield or anybody else..... It’s not on an interstate highway. This is a huge factor in today's retail market. The smaller high-end tenants that might have located in Sunset Hills won't look at the mall because it is not on an interstate highway. All of the successful malls in St. Louis are on highways.
12 down is where it is. So take it off and send it back to? Clifford?
Just for the record - I made a few calls, and Tim Trueblood left last Thursday for his daughter's CUM LAUDE GRADUATION IN PENNSYLVANIA.
What is your obsession with him?
You "made a few calls"? How many did you make Mr. Kelleher? I'm suprised you're not house sitting for him. Why are you posting at 9:21 in the morning? Shouldn't you be at work? I can because I'm a homemaker. What's your excuse?
Rude, crude, nasty and uncalled for--go and scrub your tarlets.
Already done.
12 down is not a "swastika", it's an 0!
Tom Ford
To the blogger at 9:27 May 15th. You are right on. Mayors all do the same thing even Pat Killoren appointed people she believed in. The only reason why this mayor relieved some board and commission members was to allow new people to also get a chance to serve their community. If you were running for Mayor and a very community-minded person stated that he or she would like to serve on a committee or board, would you say NO! "Because if I appoint you someone that has been serving for 15 years will have to no longer serve"? What's the matter with saying, this person or that person had their chance to serve, now give someone else a chance? Plus the letter that was written to the members of boards and commissions was written by Greer who is about as Warm and Fuzzy as a dead corpse. The Mayor should have never signed the letters and probably regrets it to this day. It didn't explain anything to these people. Why? Because Mr. Greer wanted to deliberately make the mayor look foolish. Had a good secretary been there, she would have made sure the letter explained things to the people and thanked them for all of the years they served. It would have explained that some of them would still be reappointed. The roster was full of names of people who had a long history of serving their city. What was wrong with wanting some new people? The mayor wanted to start with a clean slate and as I said before, when a person is running for office for mayor, he meets people every day while he is canvassing and people will ask to be placed on this board or that board. I see nothing wrong with it. Next question!
Why couldn't the Mayor write his own letters?
Why didn't the Mayor read the letters before he signed and sent them out?
Next "Roy's Boy's" programed blame someone else answer please.
The reason most of the members of the committees donated their time and dedication for such a long period of time is there were no other VOLUNTEERS that came forward.
Why didn't the newly appointed citizens come forward before? hmmm?
They did...but previous mayors didn't wish to appoint them. They wanted "like-minded" individuals.
I ASSume you have documentation to prove that individuals came forward to volunteer for committees? Doubt it. more fiction
That's bravo sierra that the mayor's didn't want them in the past.
I know of at least 5 people who wanted to be on committees, and previous mayors simply "forgot" their names whenever a committee post opened up. Don't believe me, fine. But you don't know your former mayors too well!
I'll tell you what's bravo sierra-Robertson's Sunshine award.
Agree on Robertson's Sunshine Award.... He did one hell of a job with the bravo sierra. Perhaps that's why the Call didn't investigate the events of the infamous 2003 City Christmas Party and is subsequent resignation for "personal" reasons.
ANYONE! What does bravo sierra mean? One more question! Who would dare ask Mayor Robertson anything. Our police chief covered everything up and Robertson being a lawyer. Wouldn't that have been like commiting sucide?
Isn't it a fancy term for 'bs'? Or is it the Spanish term for baseball statistics?
In simple english BULL S%&T. It's an old term from the military.
All of the Chief Paillou haters should be ashamed of themselves. Did anyone stop and think that this man has military experience, a college education, and 23 years experience in the city of Crestwood, what makes you think he is not qualified? Some people within the police dept hate CHANGE! Well get over yourselves and give our new Chief a chance, and let's face it he couldn't be any worse than the last one. It is quite sad that certain members of the department just thrive on gossip and enjoy creating problems. Our police department has been through a lot in the past few years and we don't need people who are just out for themselves. Maybe those anonymous persons should go work for the Fairview Heights PD where they might be more comfortable.
One more thing to the Meyers/Paillou/Robinson bashers; Would you mister or misses anonymous, as an elected official surround yourself with people who you personally know and trust or would you appoint strangers? Every politician does just that, they surround him/her self with people who they believe can do the job and people they trust. I'm sure Mayors, Governors, Senators, and even the President does just that. It's not a new concept.
Poster 8:39 & 8:45
Feel better now?
yes i do thanks!
I guess politics as usual here in Crestwood.
Wouldn't it almost be criminal if the person who writes the pitifully juvenile one liners is one of the aldermen elected to help his city? They couldn't possibly amuse anyone with any intelligence, but apparently he is amusing himself. SCARY!
Amusing himself? Boy I hope not as these are some of the worst groaners I have seen or heard in years.
Please get us some good ones like Mae West when asked how she got such a good looking fur coat, " goodness had nothing to do with it"
Or W. C. Fields, who stated when asked if his card game was a game of chance, replied "not the way I play it, it isn't".
Work on it people, you can do it!
Tom Ford
Someone wrote that it would be scarry if the lowlife who writes the pathetic one-liners on this blog site was also an elected official. You know, what is even scarrier is that even if is not the elected official whose claim to fame is breath mints before the meeting, we all know he is totally capable and highly suspect. Afterall, he is a "trip" not to be missed at public meetings. Imagine the ground he can cover anonymously. By comparison to other officials, his term cannot end soon enough. Time to get back to the business of the people. Monkey business is for monkeys.
Any chance this is the sophomoric alderman who cannot walk a straight line due to an extra-heavy chip of vindictiveness on shoulder or various and sundry other well-known causes? The same alderman whose mentor is no longer there to provide him an audience. The one and only alderman who likes to pick on members of the audience and whose questions are as stupid as they are sarcastic? The one who can't seem to realize that the one with the most votes can win even if they are not in the same club or parish, which of course is not a prerequisite. The very one whose shorts are so knotted his face is purple? The one who made so much noise mocking one of the candidates at the Mayoral Debate that those around him were totally disgusted? The one whose one-liners are cloned? The one for whom the law of censure was invented? The one who finds residents confrontational when they sit on the wrong wide of his narrow mind. Ah, yes, one's behavior and demeanor do affect the public and invite comment on blog sites and on the street. Residents of this city are hopeful other officials wash their hands of this offensive behavior and move on with their eye on that which matters. Leave this poor soul alone to beat on his own drum. There is a much better tune for marchicng. Being a city official is just not this man's calling. This is a reputation which cannot be lived down.
Golly-dontcha think you are a carrying around a little too much hatred and venom towards an alderman! Bet your own face is a little purple with all that pent up resentment-- wow. HAVE A NICE DAY! LOVE YA!
Sorry, but the actions of certain aldermen (current and former) should be brought to question. Somewhere along the jagged road these past 6 years, civility went out the door at 1 Detjen Drive. Some of those at the dias forgot they were representatives of the people.
Post 1:55 a.m. you sure are right about civility, just ask Vicki Cross how civil the current mayor was to her when she asked him a question he didn't like or didn't have the answer to. It's on the tape, just go up to City Hall and look it up for your self.
Yes, I saw that and did not like that either, eventhough Ms Cross, a known Fagan supporter, was trying to embarrass him. She kept looking at Duwe, and those two were smiling back and forth during her talk. One can only wonder - was this planned?
But the lack of civility has gone back several years prior to Roy Robinson.
1:54 PM I don't believe you were there and saw what you claim. The tape recording exists and the incident was cited in the newspaper.
Where is your evidence to support your claim?
I really don't care that you don't believe me. I know what I saw - and heard. You calling me a liar only shows what can of person you are.
Calling someone a liar. That's classy.
To the 2:10PM blogger - please, there's no need to be cross. Being cross with one another will make this town bland. Should we really be breeding this hostility? Do we want to be that we way, or should we be true to our blood? So don't be like a mad ox and get into a pickle.
Good grief! A budding poet amongst us!
Why, oh why do I spend the time toiling over a hot computer key board when we have such eloquence, such mastery of verbosity so readily available?
Alas, I can only aspire to the greatness, that this wordsmith hath wrought upon this humble blog!
Cary on oh great one! Your humble servent stands in awe of your witty banter!
Tom Ford
What can I say, I'm a poet and didn't know it. What can I say, when talk turns to the city, I stand at bay. I express my curiousity with my unusual verbosity. I've seen many changes in this town; some make me smile, some make me frown. I used to drive my Datsun down Watson, and wonder how great Crestwood could be, a wonderful community for you and me.
There once was a lady from Crestwood, no doubt a leader in her neighborhood. She has driven her Datsun, wondering, and then some, how delightful Crestwood can be!
Tom Ford
Poster 1:54 and 2:38
From what you wrote, you must be one of "Roy's Boy's".
Previous blogger - are you one of Fagan's remnants?
Who defended Fagan in the posts listed?
The "Roy's Boys" comment has been used by Fagan supporters.
How could Fagan be defended?
You know who writes what and who they support? Amazing, simply amazing.
Maybe you can tell the FBI where Jimmy Hoffa is with this ablity!
Maybe I could!
I thought Jimmy Hoffa was going to join the swim club this summer! What about Elvis?
Where is your evidence to support your claim?
It was a hot tip!
Greer moves up, Myers moves down. From today's newspaper, it is clear that Greer has more qualifications than Robinson to be mayor.
Yeah, when pigs fly. Your newspaper isn't a newspaper. It's a controversy loving advertising machine.
Greer is qualified for.............
You fill in the blanks!
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