This weeks edition of the Suncrestcall newspaper, the Civil Service Board, and the BOA, interesting!
Ladies and Gentlemen, please click on the header to be directed to this weeks Call newspaper. We have some interesting comments from Mr. Burke Wasson reference the Civil Service meetings.
I did not attend the work session, but I am told I missed a good one! I await the comments from Mr. Wasson next week regarding same, as I am told some very interesting remarks were made.
Tom Ford
NO. 280
I did not attend the work session, but I am told I missed a good one! I await the comments from Mr. Wasson next week regarding same, as I am told some very interesting remarks were made.
Tom Ford
NO. 280
posted by Crestwood Independent at 18:03
26 Comments:
As I understand from a person who was at the meeting, the board of aldermen asked a lot of very good questions and there seemed to be very good cooperation with the people on the commission and the board.
This person was extremely impressed with several aldermen who really spoke and asked good questions.
However, I am deeply disappointed in the way the mayor displayed his anger toward Steve Neider. Steve Neider has always been one to keep his cool and is very diligent with regard to his responsibilities.
I don't see any reason why the mayor acted that way. I have always been concerned with the aldermen and not the mayor. Now it seems that he's got a great board that are doing a great job and he is starting to act badly. I hate to see that he is posturing himself in such a bad way.
I hope that it doesn't continue because we had that mentality before and I didn't like it then and I don't like it now.
To the 1st poster: DITTO!!!
Quote of the week, compliments of The Call:
"One issue I do kind of have is where it referred to the mayor and the city administrator as the spokespersons for the city," Bland said. "I'm not sure that the mayor needs to be included in there because he's an elected official. He's not a civil servant" -Richard Bland
What? You mean the mayor cannot be a spokesperson for the city? A mayor is an THE 'elected' spokesperson for the city. He's the boss of the City Administrator. I guess Bland thinks the he should be the spokesman for the city. He should run for Mayor, then we'd really have something to talk about!!!
What if 911 happened and Mayor Rudolf Juliani could not speak on behalf of City of New York?
One thing for sure. Bland is the new Trueblood for the Call. The Call's goto guy, if you will.
-Cheers!
Wonderfull, now we have an expert (?) in Missouri Prisons speaking for Crestwood (Bland.)
It dosen't get any better than this folks!
Tom Ford
Tom you seem to think you are an expert on policework (?), construction, (?), HVAC (?), politics (?) and the city of Crestwood (?)......What makes you think Rich Bland does not know what his talking about...just because you don't agree with him...you put a question mark behind his name. How pompous of you.
Alderman Bland is right. The mayor is not in the civil service portion of our government. Hmmm... maybe that is why the original document left it up to the BOA to decide. Nothing negative against the mayor being the spokesperson, just to keep the elected officials out of the Civil Service rules/regulations.
What is wrong with "if it is not broken why fix it" as stated several times on this site regarding the proposed Charter changes?
Per our Charter, the BOA is the boss of the C/A.
I think Bland's point was that the civil service document should not dictate what the Mayor or City Administrator can do because they are not civil servants. I doubt he has any trouble with them being the spokespersons, just with that being dictated by the civil service board.
9:45PM blogger: Your eyes decieve you, the is nor never was a question mark behind his name.
The question mark is behind his background, because I am not wsure that's what he did.
Re-read the post my friend, and while I'm at it, I do have experience in all the fields you mentioned, do you?
He may well know of what he speak's, but don't we have the right to question it?
Tom Ford
Dear 10:44pm
The civil service board doesn't dictate, nor does any other citizen volunteer board dictate. Their role is to recommend. (The exception being the Charter Commission as they somehow have the power to put an issue on the ballot.)
The BOA has the responsibility (read 'power', in bland talk) for finalizing and approving the document.
"When one is power hungry, logic and reason sometimes become blurred." - Anonymous
After reading the Mayors quotes over the past year and what he called Alderman Nieder, I'm not sure I want him to be spokesman for the City.
Fellow blogger, I can't help but agree with you. I supported Roy, but he certainly does not need to say those things to Steve Nieder, or any other alderman.
If you know Roy Robinson at all, you then know that he is a man of free will. His actions are a reflection of his beliefs. He does not bow to anyone. The only reason he wanted to be Mayor is because he wanted a better Crestwood. He may not make all of the right decisions, but you better believe he makes the decisions based upon a firm set of values.
No, Roy Robinson is not perfect. No, Roy Robinson is not going to lead Crestwood into the financial viability that was seen in the mid to late 1990's. That ship has sailed. What Roy Roinson has done is given the City of Crestwood a sense of direction. One that may not be the right path but at least it is a defined path.
Roy may not be on the right path but at least he is going down a defined path? That is the same thing you could have said about the actions taken by the Captain of the Titanic!!
Roy may not make all the right decisions but they are made on a firm set of values? Do we want a leader who believes they are always right, and will not change, even if he is wrong? God help us all if this a true snapshop of Roy's inter-workings.
We all know why Roy is under attack constantly. This is political posturing for the next mayoral election. Any guesses on who is posturing? I have one and only one guess.
A frequent poster, obsessive about criticizing the mayor,posts his criticisms on his own blog when he "has time", and has been posturing for the last 13 years, spends a lot of time communicating with individuals from the local press, and was a constant source of quotes.
He may not sign his name, which gives him the autonomy to direct criticisms in the guise of several anonymous bloggers. Has several friends who obsessively argue about their agendas.
Would contribute a lovely "first lady", sure to attend all meetings and be the puppet master with her hand in the pot, stirring constantly.
I have no idea who might be ginning up for a run at the mayors job, but I have serious doubts about the person you speak of.
I think that would be off his radar for a variety of reasons. The Mayor's job is worse that an F-4 "wild weasel" pilot in Viet nam! Your going to go out and look for all the flack, and then take it out!
No matter what Roy Robinson does, someone will dis-like it, and many times it's not his doing, but the BOA! Remember, Roy has no vote (except a tie,) so when your directing the questions you should be looking very closely at the BOA!
As most of you know I have lived here 37 years now and I have seen Mayors come and go, some good some bad, and some, well.... I really believe Roy Robinson is doing what he feels is the right thing for Crestwood.
Has he made mistakes, sure, but he is there every day, working for our betterment, and mistakes will happen. Were out of the lawsuit game now, the tax increase has passed, and he has till 08 to show you why he should be re-elected, so give the guy a chance!
Tom Ford
Absolutely Right! This Mayor deserves a chance to do his job!
He's had a year and 8 months
8:50 am Yeah he has had 1 year and 8 months. More than enough time to fix over 10 years of "screw ups". Makes sense to me! Sure! Onward and upward.
Have you read or heard about Northwest Plaza? They have experienced the same scenerio as Crestwood with the declining income in the past 5 years. You act like it is all the previous administration's doing. Declining sales tax income and debt ($1mil) left over from Lechtleighter (sp?). Can't wait until a new/or current owner of Crestwood Plaza starts asking for assistance to upgrade the Plaza. Wonder how this will set with some of the bloggers on this site!
Miguel is gonna run for mayor in 2008 and he is posturing now for the race. Look at all the times he is quoted in the papers, that's why Roy wants to be the spokesperson for the city, to knock out Miguel.
No one should be spokesperson for the city. They should all be encouraged to speak for the city. I happen to like Roy as a mayor. But no way should he proclaim himself as the spokesperson. It's a city. Not a monarchy.
11:29 am If you can blame everything on this mayor because he hasn't moved mountains in 1 year and 8 months, why can't we put some of the blame on the past administration for the last 5 years or longer? Is it fair for you to be able to put the blame on this mayor but not allow us to blame the previous administration also?
The past has a negativity on the present. Crestwood Mall is going the way of other malls, and building up our retail corridor is a problem many cities are worried about. It can't be fixed tomorrow. Personally, I am really sick of the "blame game" when you want to just hang this mayor out to dry. These problems have been creeping up on us for several years.
We spent years thriving on sales tax and now it doesn't work anymore. Now, we are going to have to foot some of the bills instead of letting our sales tax do it for us. The well has run dry and it didn't start with this mayor.
Good points 4:04. Love him or hate him, you can't blame Roy for the mall's decline. That's all Westfield and Crestwood's poor location from the interstates.
Good points also 1:09. When did it become such a bad thing to have an opinion? This spokesperson stuff looks like it's trying to stifle any opinion not from the mayor.
4:04 PM, February 06, 2007
I think you have a problem.
Are you sure you were referring to the comment on 11:29 AM, February 06, 2007??? The mayor was not the topic.
Seems like you have your own agenda/ax to grind.
4:46 PM No axes to grind here. Sorry that is what you think. Maybe I didn't understand your comments and if so, I apologize. I was referring to your phrase at 11:29, "you act like it is all the past administration's doing". I was trying to say that the past administration didn't make it any easier for this administration to take over and many are angry that things haven't turned around given 1 year and 8 months.
Further, by relying on sales tax monies all these years to pay for everything, which all administrations did, we have no sales tax to help us in this major decline. If we didn't rely on our sales tax to pay for everything including a brand new community center made possible by past administrations, we could now pay our bills with some of it.
That's all I mean, nothing more and nothing less. No need to start a fight over it.
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