The BOA meeting agenda for September 23, 2008. Notice anything missing here?
I read the agenda and when I came to the "appointment of ward one Alderman" I found that the name had been left out! Being somewhat of a curious old goat, I decided to call the City Clerk (Ms. Flowers) to find out who it is, and point out that the name had not been attached to the agenda.
Guess what, she dosen't know either, so I guess this might be considered a matter of National Security in Crestwood! Surely his honor has a name in mind to provide to the Board tomorrow night, and surely (unless this calls for "closed session" work) he will share it with all of us then, no?
It escapes me, as to why the the fine citizens of ward one are not allowed to know in advance who might become their leader. Is this but another case of "the most open and honest" Government, or are we seeing an extension of the vary same thing's his Honor said he would not do if elected?
While your on the City site, please take a minute to read the letter from the City Administrator reference the Civil Service Board, and his "duck of the day," as he attempts to extricate himself from this mess he put himself into. Had he refused to become involved ( as well he should have, as he was not in office when this went down, ) he would be much better off, but no, that was not to be!
Ah well, another "Tuesday night at the fights" looms large, and I can't for the next installment in the papers to tell me who did what to whom, or said what to whom. In any case my money is on Messrs's. Miguel, and Nieder to go the distance!
Tom Ford
NO. 551
Guess what, she dosen't know either, so I guess this might be considered a matter of National Security in Crestwood! Surely his honor has a name in mind to provide to the Board tomorrow night, and surely (unless this calls for "closed session" work) he will share it with all of us then, no?
It escapes me, as to why the the fine citizens of ward one are not allowed to know in advance who might become their leader. Is this but another case of "the most open and honest" Government, or are we seeing an extension of the vary same thing's his Honor said he would not do if elected?
While your on the City site, please take a minute to read the letter from the City Administrator reference the Civil Service Board, and his "duck of the day," as he attempts to extricate himself from this mess he put himself into. Had he refused to become involved ( as well he should have, as he was not in office when this went down, ) he would be much better off, but no, that was not to be!
Ah well, another "Tuesday night at the fights" looms large, and I can't for the next installment in the papers to tell me who did what to whom, or said what to whom. In any case my money is on Messrs's. Miguel, and Nieder to go the distance!
Tom Ford
NO. 551
posted by Crestwood Independent at 16:40
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One other item is missing from the city website agenda. The reply to the civil Service Board from the Crestwood city legal counsel. Wonder why?
Open government?
No cover ups?
Sworn to uphold the laws. Guess five of the isx alderman to be replaced with responsible individuals. Godd luck ward one, two, three. Ward four seems to have one out of two.
Who will attend tonight's BOA meeting, anyone?
Tom:
Our new CA has to learn that he is playing in the big leagues now. He is no longer in a nice safe and sound department head position. You are right, he should have stayed out of it. At best, he should have recommended bringing in an outside party to take a look at it from the administrative side. He could have kept his nose clean and let someone else do the dirty work that needs to be done.
9:34 Getting an outside firm when you are paying a city administrator makes no sense. I read the city administrator memos in the agenda packet and "his nose" is exactly where a city adiministrator's "nose" is suppose to be. By definition, this is a city administrator form of government ruled by the Charter and if you read the Charter, it will show what his duties are. Not unless you want to change the Charter.
Getting an outside firm, costs lots of money. If every time some issue comes along that needs to be investigated is done by an outside firm, our money will be flying out the window especially when this administration is being taken to task for everything. The city administrator whoever it is cannot be biased in any way and has to stick to the facts. And here you are doing his job. His decisions at the meeting last night were contrary to your beliefs therefore, we need an outside firm. Better put a firm under contract with the city, cause I can see the writing on the wall already.
If Tom Disagrees with something, the person is an idiot. If the person does what Tom wants, they are brilliant. That's it in a nutshell. If someone at city hall hired an outside firm for something Tom disagreed with, he would be enranged about all the spending going on. Tom sure has a lot of opionions for someone who rarely attends a meeting....WHy? His stock answer is, he is so busy with his job. It would be thorougly entertaining to have someone shadow him in his job for a week or two and see how he does his job. And then, criticize the way Tom does his job on a blog.
If you don't like how Tom does things, start your own blog and leave his alone. It's very simple.
Remember, it's HIS blog and we are guests.
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6:59 PM blogger, Your gone! Remember we don't use nasty language here. YOU may do it at the dinner table if you wish, but not here!
11:23 AM blogger: I just got home from my "job" twenty minutes ago. I will be glad to pick you up at you up at your house at 5:30 AM any day you wish, and you can ride along with me for the day! That way you can write up a storm on the blog and tell the truth for a change while your at it.
And, you can come back that night, and work with me in the office until we get all the quotes and paper work done, whatever that takes.
Call me with you address, and the day you want to go (I see you have plenty of time to post during the day anyway) and we will make it happen! And please don't wear your best cloths as you will be in a (GASP) blue collar environment all day long, and I don't want you looking like a dork!
Tom Ford
11:23 What do you do all day, sit at the feet of Roy, awaiting your next set of orders?
Do you sit at the feet of Miguel and Nieder and Murphy awaiting your orders?
Nope, not since Roy left their feet.
I have smelly feet!
Interesting, again by the use of personal attacks on Tom, a deflection to the real issue, that being the corruption at our City Hall, has been put into effect.
Corruption at city hall has yet to be proven even by the eruption of your comments.
No ethics commission report, no proven corruption except in your mind.
No ethics commission report ... yet.
Bloggers don't need a report from the Ethics Commission to judge Roy, cause their hate will eat right threw any report unless it shows he is guilty. But even if it shows that nothing was done illegally, it won't stop them. They will just go back to the drawing board and find something else. In the meantime, the City of Crestwood will not be united but divided which will halt any progress at all.
1:11 PM, September 25, 2008
Do you condone the way the mayor conducts himself? You act like just because citizens voice their opinion regarding the abrassive nature of the mayor, they are automatically hateful people.
Maybe your family acts this way towards others, but my family does not. I don't believe it is right.
12:42 PM blogger: Exactly! The Ethics Commission is in the processes of investigating the complaint, and until they reach judgement, it will not be known.
These are the most secretive people I have ever met in Missouri, and well they should be!
What we know so far is that the complaint has not been dismissed, closed or dropped, but rather the commission is investigating.
I am surprised to see that Roy Robinson's name is mentioned often by the support group he has managed to garner, as I don't believe his name was ever mentioned in the complaint (and I would know!)
Are you telling us he WAS part of the deal, or are you just just assuming he is part of it?
Tom Ford
Tom,
The most effective thing you can do is to keep directing your readers to the articles in the papers where the Mayor is quoted.
Roy's words stand on their own as examples of his corruption, misuse of the public trust, attempted cover ups and lack of integrity.
At last we know the real reason he misspelled integrity on his campaign literature, he doesn't know what the word means.
My most recent favorite Roy quote:
Call paper 9/18/09 page 10A
"So we don't know where things are going."
As the reason for voting for pay raises in closed session. Control, must have control.
3:48 The "conduct" of the mayor is not what the Ethics Commission is dealing with. Did he or did he not do something unethical or against the code or the laws is what I thought the Ethics Commission was involved in? We have had a lot of bad behavior and conduct by past officials on the dais before, but that doesn't justify an investigation by the Ethics Commission. Cutting somebody off so they cannot speak, or the mayor turning off a mike or whatever else he is doing is not what is being investigated; or at least I don't think it is.
Read our City Charter some time and look at what it says the Mayor shall be recognized as. They shall be recognized as the head of the city for all legal and ceremonial purposes.
Legal? Since the illegal behind close door pay raises I find that term hard to see our mayor as being the head of in our city.
Ribbon cutting,now that is a role I can see our Mayor as the head of.
9:12 PM, September 25, 2008
Who said that the Ethics Commission will find the mayor at fault? I haven't seen that. The point is that the mayor has swept the subject under the rug. Why? If he had no knowledge of what was going on, wouldn't he want to find out who and how this happened? Hmm.
And maybe you just want to blow everything out of proportion like you have done a thousand times before.
Define conduct. If you are talking about the way he conducts a meeting is one thing; if you are talking about sweeping something under the rug is entirely another. Then you are talking legal versus illegal.
11:15 You are right, there is nothing wrong with what our Mayor has done or said.. After all, that's what he said, so who am I to not believe him?
He has never been wrong, right?
9:18 9/25 You speak of behind close door raises. You speak of it being illegal and you speak of the mayor only. The Board of Aldermen members were also in this "closed door" session. If this was an illegal meeting, why were they in it? Were they not also guilty of being in that meeting and voting on the pay raises? You want to blame this all on the mayor? He wasn't having a meeting by himself now was he? Therefore, you also feel that the board of aldermen is at fault, yes or no.
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